The Philosophy of Liberty

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]squating_bear wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
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Were you or were you not insinuating that my post about Hitler and Dahmer represented a red herring?

That’s yes or no, please.

I’m sure you were–though, the slovenliness of your thoughts and grammar, coupled with the goofy crypticism you’re fond of peddling, often make it difficult for even the simplest of your sentences to convey what they’re supposed to. But, as I said, I’m sure that you were. Yes?

If yes, I’ll bury the matter in a single post and be done with it.[/quote]
slovenliness is definitely inaccurate, but the goofy crypticism I enjoy very much indeed

You demand that I withhold the goofy crypticism for a second - I will do that, and answer your question. Then I will explain to you why the goofy crypticism is so fun, and further how it even serves a purpose at times

No, I was not insinuating anything about you. I was not even thinking about you specifically until you replied to me, much less that post in particular

The thread had taken a few wrong turns in my opinion, and it was feeding frenzy time. Just about the perfect time for me to say what I did. It was a ‘statement’ so goofy and cryptic, it could have been construed to mean anything, and was designed that many in there psychological states at that time would do so. To try and hold me to the nonexistent ‘claim’ you saw in that post is just biting the bait[/quote]

I doubt very much that you didn’t have me at least partially in mind there, since my own post was embedded in the quotations of your own. I could also see very clearly how what I’d written could be (unappositely) called a red herring. One of the most misunderstood and inaccurately identified fallacies, I add.

More generally–you may think it’s clever to toss some cryptic rusty wrench into the wheel every once in a while, but it really isn’t. I could jump into each political discussion on the face of the planet with some or another bit of self-satisfied imprecision and then, when challenged on the details, give a hearty HA! and declare myself unbeholden to intellectual honesty and philosophical precision. Because, you know, I was just tossing wrenches. But what would be the point? The fun of debate is in thinking clearly and engaging unabashedly, and you seem lazily confident that neither of those two things would do you any good. So I excuse myself from the slovenly (and yes, slovenly fits like a fist in the eye) fatuity of going back and forth with a (presumably) grown man who takes the lion’s share of his pride in his “slipperiness.”
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Then why didn’t you just say so?

It’s all I even asked

Sure, you were partially in mind, as was every other thread participant.

On the cleverness or lack thereof - it was a clever enough bit of bait that even you bit for it - don’t sell yourself short. It serves a definite purpose if the feeding frenzy stops - I wasn’t just tossing wrenches

On my honesty or lack thereof - I claimed immense slipperiness from the get go, you’re just mad it didn’t go your way

[quote]squating_bear wrote:
you’re just mad it didn’t go your way[/quote]

[Can’t resist.]

You called red herring, and have admitted to having had me at least partially in mind.

I have shown that there was no red herring to speak of on my end.

So, I am neither mad nor under the impression that things didn’t go my way. Things went exactly my way. I am absolved of the accusation, which, again, has been explicitly acknowledged as having been at least partially directed toward me.

So I’m, in fact, happy as a lark.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]squating_bear wrote:
Friends? [/quote]

Just curious: how does this fit with your more recent statement about “friends?”[/quote]
I was asking if he wanted to be friends.

The way he was interacting with me gave me the idea that he subconsciously perceived me as some sort of adversary by default. I’m still pretty sure he would have understood better and quicker if we had zero prior interactions, but I can see how he would get defensive since he was at the bottom of the quote chain

You ever had people act like they are your friends, when they really aren’t?

I can’t recall anything he has said here or elsewhere that would indicate that he’s a friend, other than potentially this - which doesn’t really fly. Have I missed something? Can you recall any? If so, please let me know

Heh, I’ll still be his friend - but it never sounded like he wanted to…

To squating_bear

Some time ago I blocked you because you pissed me off with your inane drivel. Later I had a change of heart, however the only way I could read your posts was to log out myself. When wanting to respond I have to write your name from memory hence the spelling mistakes(or should I say corrections.) It should be a compliment to you that I go to all this trouble to read and respond to your posts as there is now no way to unblock someone as far as I know. God be with you.

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
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Were you or were you not insinuating that my post about Hitler and Dahmer represented a red herring?

That’s yes or no, please.

I’m sure you were–though, the slovenliness of your thoughts and grammar, coupled with the goofy crypticism you’re fond of peddling, often make it difficult for even the simplest of your sentences to convey what they’re supposed to. But, as I said, I’m sure that you were. Yes?

If yes, I’ll bury the matter in a single post and be done with it.[/quote]

Were you talking to me? The problem largely lies in the difference between American and British/Australian/South African/New Zealand and Canadian humour. Perhaps sometime I’ll explain it to you but right now I have neither the time nor inclination.

Let’s just say Americans have NO sense of humour. Hence the difference between the English The Office and the American The Office.

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

That’s yes or no, please.

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…life going okay smh? i haven’t been in the mix lately.

respectfully,

c-dog

P.S.

you are receiving this in private messaging correct?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
To squating_bear

Some time ago I blocked you because you pissed me off with your inane drivel. Later I had a change of heart, however the only way I could read your posts was to log out myself. When wanting to respond I have to write your name from memory hence the spelling mistakes(or should I say corrections.) It should be a compliment to you that I go to all this trouble to read and respond to your posts as there is now no way to unblock someone as far as I know. God be with you.[/quote]
Thanks man - truly an honor. Definitely a compliment

Sorry for giving you trouble over the name then, I didn’t know. I couldn’t figure it out, but started estimating it was some weird ploy to establish dominance or something… no doubt a result of considering you an enemy. Call me whatever you want now (hmmmm… within reason)

You obviously don’t have to answer - but I pretty much do have to ask if you could tell which instance it was that pissed you off like that…

khuda hafiz

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Let’s just say Americans have NO sense of humour. Hence the difference between the English The Office and the American The Office.[/quote]

See, now I was just about to tell you how to unblock your new friend, but I don’t take kindly to claims of no American sense of humor.

The idea of you going through all that to read his posts?

Now THAT’S funny!

:-p

:-)[/quote]

Okay buddy a ‘different’ sense of humour. Or maybe ‘special’ would be more appropriate. How else do you explain all my hilarious jokes getting the silent treatment. Not in Australia or South Africa by the way.

Also I’m sure you know I consider your country close to and maybe the best country in the world chum.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

The idea of you going through all that to read his posts?

Now THAT’S funny!

:-p

:-)[/quote]

Now that’s a joke we can agree on!

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
^
Were you or were you not insinuating that my post about Hitler and Dahmer represented a red herring?

That’s yes or no, please.

I’m sure you were–though, the slovenliness of your thoughts and grammar, coupled with the goofy crypticism you’re fond of peddling, often make it difficult for even the simplest of your sentences to convey what they’re supposed to. But, as I said, I’m sure that you were. Yes?

If yes, I’ll bury the matter in a single post and be done with it.[/quote]

Were you talking to me? The problem largely lies in the difference between American and British/Australian/South African/New Zealand and Canadian humour. Perhaps sometime I’ll explain it to you but right now I have neither the time nor inclination.[/quote]

No sir, not directed at you.

Edit: I am a huge fan of what we’ll call British humor. My favorite opening line from a novel:

“Into the face of the young man who sat on the terrace of the Hotel Magnifique at Cannes there had crept a look of furtive shame, the shifty hangdog look which announces that an Englishman is about to speak French.” Perfect dry opening/last-word punchline Britishism.

[quote]squating_bear wrote:

Heh, I’ll still be his friend - but it never sounded like he wanted to…[/quote]

Friend is not the right word, not really, since we don’t know each other and haven’t spoken often. But I meant to say that I bear no actual ill will toward you. I like conflict in political debate, and therefore I like people with whom I have conflict. The more intense the conflict, the better it gets. There’s only ever been one poster on here whom I actually came to personally dislike, but he wasn’t you. The ribbing, the telling you you’re wrong and all that–it isn’t meant to be read with the chest puffed and the “come at me bro” eyebrows.

[Perhaps I am the eggman after all.]

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

The idea of you going through all that to read his posts?

Now THAT’S funny!

:-p

:-)[/quote]

Now that’s a joke we can agree on![/quote]
hahaha - well done

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]squating_bear wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
To squating_bear

Some time ago I blocked you because you pissed me off with your inane drivel. Later I had a change of heart, however the only way I could read your posts was to log out myself. When wanting to respond I have to write your name from memory hence the spelling mistakes(or should I say corrections.) It should be a compliment to you that I go to all this trouble to read and respond to your posts as there is now no way to unblock someone as far as I know. God be with you.[/quote]
Thanks man - truly an honor. Definitely a compliment

Sorry for giving you trouble over the name then, I didn’t know. I couldn’t figure it out, but started estimating it was some weird ploy to establish dominance or something… no doubt a result of considering you an enemy. Call me whatever you want now (hmmmm… within reason)

You obviously don’t have to answer - but I pretty much do have to ask if you could tell which instance it was that pissed you off like that…

khuda hafiz[/quote]

Didn’t peg you as Iranian.[/quote]
Afghan, actually

What did you have me pegged as, if anything?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
To squating_bear

Some time ago I blocked you because you pissed me off with your inane drivel. Later I had a change of heart, however the only way I could read your posts was to log out myself. When wanting to respond I have to write your name from memory hence the spelling mistakes(or should I say corrections.) It should be a compliment to you that I go to all this trouble to read and respond to your posts as there is now no way to unblock someone as far as I know. God be with you.[/quote]
Ya know, I’d like to apologize then for being nasty to ye

I mostly thought highly of you still, tho it pissed me off that you kept finding ways to ignore me. Like analogies to green cheese and bigfoot, for example. It started to seem to me that the only reason you didn’t put me on ignore was so that you could convince other people to not listen

Turns out I was very wrong, you’ve been doing the name thing for a long time. Which means your actual stance has been the opposite of what I thought for just as long. Apologies.

I think we should do what ever our employer says we should DRUG test ok . Oh my wife should not take the pill , OK . eye roll