The Next President of the United States: IV

[Sloth]

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@Sloth

@therajraj

He said he had a bad ear piece. [/quote]

A bad ear-piece doesn’t explain that video…He clearly heard David Duke. He immediately repeats his name and says he doesn’t know anything about him/them (the white supremacy around Duke). That’s an after the fact excuse.

But, wait, which is it in the first place? Bad ear piece ,or he couldn’t remember David Duke?

My interpretation vs what Trump said.

I mean, you must be able to see him immediately repeat the name, and the challenge to disavow him…He heard the question…

[anon50325502]

Full statement here:

FBI’s Comey: No charges appropriate in Clinton email case

[therajraj]

@sloth with the amount of rape related issues in Mexico, why do you find it so implausible that criminals (illegal migrants) would have a strong propensity to rape?

[anon50325502]

@therajraj

This coupled with the stat that 80% of women crossing illegally into usa from Mexico are raped along the way is ample evidence from me. The border patrol guards have never formally endorsed a candidate either so they don’t exactly have a political history

I’m happy that the group benefiting the most by a Trump presidency and a made up statistic is enough for you…

We don’t even know how many illegals are in this country. How could we possibly know 80% of women crossing illegally are raped? 8 out of 10, I’d need to see some serious evidence for such a claim. Assuming their are 6M illegal Mexicans and half are women that’s 2,400,000 women that have been raped crossing the border.

[anon50325502]

@therajraj

with the amount of rape related issues in Mexico

Any reliable source for this? I keep seeing lower #'s per capita than the U.S.

[therajraj]

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

[therajraj]

@anon50325502

@therajraj

with the amount of rape related issues in Mexico

Any reliable source for this? I keep seeing lower #'s per capita than the U.S.

Mexico’s epidemic of missing and murdered women

On Single-Sex Buses, Relief From Unwanted Contact (Published 2008)

[Sloth]

@therajraj

@sloth with the amount of rape related issues in Mexico, why do you find it so implausible that criminals (illegal migrants) would have a strong propensity to rape?

What? You need to show that Mexicans HERE are committing some kind of rape epidemic. I see no evidence. All you do is repeatedly report this figure for women who are raped on their WAY here. Apparently arguing that predators know where to repeatedly prey upon victims. But it has jack all to do with Trump’s efforts to whip up fear of some broad Mexican propensity for raping.

[anon50325502]

The huffingtonpost, I said reliable…

[therajraj]

@Sloth

@therajraj

@sloth with the amount of rape related issues in Mexico, why do you find it so implausible that criminals (illegal migrants) would have a strong propensity to rape?

What? You need to show that Mexicans HERE are committing some kind of rape epidemic. I see no evidence. All you do is repeatedly report this figure for women who are raped on their WAY here. Apparently arguing that predators know where to repeatedly prey upon victims. But it has jack all to do with Trump’s efforts to whip up fear of some broad Mexican propensity for raping.

We’re at least clear he’s not talking about all mexicans but only illegals right?

[anon50325502]

No mention of rape in either article. Looking for real rape statistics not scare pieces.

[therajraj]

@anon50325502

The huffingtonpost, I said reliable…

The stat is pulled from amnesty international. The link is in the article

[therajraj]

@anon50325502

No mention of rape in either article. Looking for real rape statistics not scare pieces.

1. They can’t stop groping them on busses to the point they need women only busses. Yes not rape but still bad

2. They are murdering them and dumping their bodies. Do I really need to pull out an article that these women aren’t brutally raped first?

[anon50325502]

They say 60% and I don’t see where they get that figure other than from NGOs as they put it.

[Sloth]

@therajraj

@Sloth

@therajraj

@sloth with the amount of rape related issues in Mexico, why do you find it so implausible that criminals (illegal migrants) would have a strong propensity to rape?

What? You need to show that Mexicans HERE are committing some kind of rape epidemic. I see no evidence. All you do is repeatedly report this figure for women who are raped on their WAY here. Apparently arguing that predators know where to repeatedly prey upon victims. But it has jack all to do with Trump’s efforts to whip up fear of some broad Mexican propensity for raping.

We’re at least clear he’s not talking about all mexicans but only illegals right?

What the heck does it matter? Are you actually arguing that illegals thought they’d come here, do the back breaking manual labor you won’t do, because somehow they though it would be easier pickings when it comes to rape in a nation with better law enforcement? Where is your evidence that an illegal Mexican is more likely to rape our daughters than our own ethnic groups?

[anon50325502]

@therajraj

1. They can’t stop groping them on busses to the point they need women only busses. Yes not rape but still bad

Bad yes. Not rape.

@therajraj

They are murdering them and dumping their bodies. Do I really need to pull out an article that these women aren’t brutally raped first?

I didn’t say anything about murder. Let’s keep the goal post where it is today.

I wanted to see reliable rape figures because I don’t believe 80% of women crossing Mexico are raped. That’s all.

[Sloth]

Once again, what does any of that have to do with those who ARE HERE being rapists? One more time, your figure (however it was found) would only serve to show that rapists know where to rape vulnerable women, and (who those vulnerable women are) OUTSIDE of the US. It is not evidence of illegal immigrant Mexicans here going on rape rampages…

[therajraj]

@Sloth

What? You need to show that Mexicans HERE are committing some kind of rape epidemic. I see no evidence. All you do is repeatedly report this figure for women who are raped on their WAY here. Apparently arguing that predators know where to repeatedly prey upon victims.

It does not matter whether they raped on US soil or Mexican soil, a rapist is a rapist. The report itself lists other migrants among other groups to be committing these rapes.

Why does it have to be HERE for it to matter to you?

[therajraj]

@anon50325502

I wanted to see reliable rape figures because I don’t believe 80% of women crossing Mexico are raped. That’s all.

The number comes from the migrant shelter themselves, not Amnesty International.

[therajraj]

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What the heck does it matter? Are you actually arguing that illegals thought they’d come here, do the back breaking manual labor you won’t do, because somehow they though it would be easier pickings when it comes to rape in a nation with better law enforcement? [/quote]

Again had this conversation

1. Come in via temporary visas not circumvent country laws.
2. They are not just doing jobs natives do not want to do. They drive down wages for native born workers too. Illegals drive down wages of the least skilled

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/forbrn.t04.htm

Food prep, construction, cleaning and maintenance, personal care etc.

You are supporting a situation that makes the decline of prime age men not working WORSE.

Take a glance at black teen unemployment.

@Sloth

Where is your evidence that an illegal Mexican is more likely to rape our daughters than our own ethnic groups?

1. They come from a culture where a rapist can avoid prison if he marries his victim.

[quote]
Rape in Mexico is prosecuted at the state level, and state laws vary. A review of criminal laws in all 31 Mexican states showed that many states require that if a 12-year-old girl wants to accuse an adult man of statutory rape, she must first prove she is “chaste and pure.” Nineteen of the states require that statutory rape charges be dropped if the rapist agrees to marry his victim. [/quote]

In Mexico, an Unpunished Crime

Remember illegal immigrants aren’t vetted like legal immigrants.

2. Criminals tend to have lower IQs than law abiding population (they already broke a major law). Low IQ people are more prone to violent crime as a whole.

3. Even if it’s 1% it’s too much, they are not allowed to be here.

4). According to this they have high murder rates, a crime worse than rape.

Illegal Alien Crime Accounts for over 30% of Murders in Many States

5. Did you see the missing women epidemic article I posted above? It’s become so common in Mexico that the outskirts of Mexico City are known as “female dumping ground.”

Now is a Mexican immigrant who applied legally to the US more likely or less likely to have engaged in something like than an unvetted illegal migrant?