Legal Immigrants do not bother me at all. Illegal immigrants bother me…
If 1 million people come here legally, that’s a-ok with me. That is the beauty of this country, you can come and go as you please.
And don’t worry we’ll have the room since most of Hollywood have pledged to leave if Trump is elected.
I legally immigrated to this country and became a citizen, are you saying I need to go?
Trump should offer to fly them out on his plane. None of those clowns are leaving, the same way the clowns who said they would leave if Obama was reelected would leave.
LOL and indeed true.
^Good points indeed. I’ve heard some express frustration that the “third party” contenders are basically just grandstanding in the Presidential election every four years instead of concentrating on building some local capital (mayoral elections, state legislatures, Congressmen, etc). I won’t pretend to understand everything there is to know about building a party, but that certainly makes sense on a surface level.
Trump is ignorant and Clinton’s experience (and corruption) was a disaster so I consider it a wash between the two.
Here are some examples. Note, most of these are left-wing sources:
Isn’t that up to the dictator?
The great thing about a dictatorship is that the one in charge gets his way, but the problem with a dictatorship is that the one in charge gets his way.
That works for any form of government. Give me a government in which only those paying for it get a vote-at least that makes sense. Or even a government consisting of one person-at least you know where to aim if that rule gets out of hand. If democracy is what we’re stuck with…why fund it with its lifeblood-the vote?
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Great non-argument. If you’re going to dismiss others points of view with non-arguments, why should anyone take what you say seriously?
1)So what you’re saying is that anyone who is an immigrant (that means no one is who isn’t a direct descendent of the original colonists, of Native American or black slave stock) must support open mass immigration always and forever?
anti-immigration isn’t solely a nativist stance, in fact there have been multiple polls showing Americans as a whole want less immigration.
Currently 1 in 5 prime age men (25-64) are not working. Surely, you care about the prosperity of immigrants already here no? Then it’s best not to dump more competition for a limited number of jobs until the ones already here are by and large gainfully employed.
Are you one of those people who wants to see poverty across the globe diminish? You see when western countries open their borders a lot of the best and brightest leave their countries for Western countries making it harder and harder for impoverished nations to lift people out of poverty.
None of this answers the question - you think there’s too much immigration based on the numbers. Well, you should leave, right? Aren’t you part of the problem if we have too much immigration?
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I agree that the US must start with addressing illegal immigrants.
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I wrote this:
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The running joke is why not Mexico?
Not at all.
I said we need much fewer NEW immigrants. First start by taking care of the ones who are already here
I am sorry, I misunderstood you.
Raj is right.
Based on a supply and demand model, Borjas found an increased supply of immigrants competing in the U.S. job market does produce a net gain for current U.S. workers of about $50 billion a year. But that small gain in the context of an $18 trillion economy is far outweighed by a transfer of wealth from U.S. workers to the businesses that hire those immigrants that amounts to $500 billion dollars.
“What immigration really does is not so much increase the pie, as redistribute the wealth,” Borjas testified before the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest. “So what I’ve learned from all this is that immigration happens to come out to be just another government redistribution program.”
Oh, I see. Now that you’re here under our generous immigration policies, we should let fewer in, because too many immigrants is a bad thing.
America would better off of immigrants would go home, except for one special immigrant near and dear to your heart - yourself. Got it.
Hilarious.
This is what TB meant by you arguing as a nativist while not being a native. You are not a part of the “we”.
Now tell us, why are you in favor of mass immigration?
Did you see the part where I said being against mass immigration is not a position only held by nativists? Plenty of polls show Americans want less immigration
