That’s the whole problem with politics. It’s all bullshit. Candidates say whatever will get them elected and what hits home with certain demographics. Policies do not matter. Insulting your opponent is what matters. Whoever comes up with the greatest zings gets publicity for it.
Yes. I am.
I don’t care that Trump is a blowhard/idiot with what he says. I don’t like that he would possibly ignore article 5, be an unstable global leader during a time where we need leadership, won’t touch entitlements, and only promises big government solutions (if any realistic solutions at all) to the VERY FEW issues he’s actually addressed. I don’t trust him to fix any problems, which is why I will not vote for him.
I started a separate thread in an attempt to talk about specific and that blew up into a food fight. Seems to be how anything somewhat related to Trump goes, even though the thread was about the GOP platform put together by Paul Ryan and not Trump.
Edit: As far as Hillary, what turns me off is not her shreiking voice, her endless lies, her career of no accomplishments, but the fact that she is promising to move our country quicker into the fiscal doom by expanding government, ignoring the debt, ignoring entitlements and using solutions like minimum wage, free college, expanding obamacare etc. I can’t support that.
It’s also worth noting that these same Saudi scum were large donors to the Clinton foundation, as well as other wahhabist’s scum in the region. Its tough to say a real estate dealer who makes deals fast is worse than someone who is already indebted to them by the wallet.
At worst, it’s a wash…
Trump now actively encouraging a foreign power - a sinister foreign power - to help in discrediting his election opponent.
Vote for Trump if you want. Just don’t claim to be an American patriot if you do.
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I was waiting for someone to miss the joke and for it to go right over their heads. He’s mocking the media
Americans should be extremely concerned that a near-peer adversary in Russia is utilizing its intelligence services in a direct attempt to subvert the American democratic process and bolster Donald Trump’s campaign. There’s no question that a Trump presidency would be a geopolitical windfall for Moscow.
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Yeah, my understanding is it was a flippant remark that the “journalists” are charging because anything Trump do iz da badz.
Whoever performed the hack already has the emails - that’s the joke.
Huh? Really?
Or… You know… against Hillary, which is quite different even though you’ll argue the actions are one in the same.
Is there even concrete proof it was Russians or is this just the assumption at this point?
Keep telling yourself that man. It’s sure to work out in your favor in the long run…
… Missing the point…
There’s also no question we have no idea who actually hacked the emails, but the whole “scary evil Russians” DNC push sure is a convenient way to get everyone to focus on evilz Trump and not “taco bowl” now isn’t it.
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Even if so, why is it more important for Trump to troll the media than to tell a foreign power to keep out of America’s business?
(For the record, no, I don’t believe his intent was simply and solely to troll with a flippant remark.)
Because he can’t raise anywhere near the money he’ll need for an actual campaign, so he has to continue to say wild shit so the media keeps his name up in lights.
And secondly, because he doesn’t think that way, hence continued proof he shouldn’t be potus.
The sheer lack of Occam’s Razor on these boards lately is disturbing, not that I’m not guilty of it myself.
Just like SMH gives him too little credit for his general intelligence, I think you’re giving him too much here.
Why would it be a joke? His entire election strategy is to leverage other entities to do his campaign work. Of course he wants the Russians to help discredit Hillary. He just happen to put it in writing on Twitter.
When I thought this whole Trump-Putin connection story couldn’t get crazier…
So Trump’s adviser Manfort embezzled money from Putin (Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska is de facto’s Putin’s personal fund manager) and went into hiding. When he reemerged, he saw the light and became Putin’s greatest fan.Talk about settling your debt.
> As I have reported, Manafort didn’t just represent oligarchs tight with the Kremlin. He became business partners with them. He ran a private equity fund in which the aluminum magnate (and Putin pal) Oleg Deripaska invested millions. As the Washington Post has shown, this fund didn’t exactly do much investing. In fact, Manafort struggled to account for the cash he received. And rather than pay back Deripaska, he apparently went underground. In 2014, Deripaska’s lawyers noted, “It appears that Paul Manafort and [his business partner] Rick Gates have simply disappeared”: Manafort’s vanishing became a joke in certain Republican circles. So why has Manafort suddenly felt comfortable re-emerging into public view? How did he square his debts with Putin’s ally?
This is simply insane. This article is a who-is-who list of shady Russian mafia types, all doing business with the Donald, the guy who fell for a Gorbachev lookalike and is notorious for poorly vetting business partners and advisors .
> Trump likely reveled in the newspaper stories that reported Gorbachev’s forthcoming visit to his HQ as fact. But surely even he never expected his fake story to become reality. He must have been gobsmacked when he received word that Gorbachev wanted to pay a spontaneous visit to Trump Tower. The skyscraper’s namesake rushed down from his penthouse office to pay obeisance. From the video, we can see the blotched head of Gorbachev emerge from his car. Trump and his retinue push through the crowd. “Great, great honor,” the mogul says as he pumps the hand of the Soviet supremo.
> One of Trump’s vulnerabilities is that he doesn’t always vet his people, whether it’s business partners, the dubious characters he retweets, or the foreign leaders who show up at his door. As it turns out, this Gorbachev wasn’t really the Soviet leader but an impersonator called Ronald Knapp. Trump was lavishing praise on the winner of a look-alike contest.
You are exactly right, he can’t raise enough money. See my response to Raj. He relies on third-party surrogates (witting or unwitting) to do all of his campaign work. He’s more than happy for the Russian to be his de facto opposition research arm of the campaign.
That he is encouraging the Russians to keep it up isn’t all that surprising. He and the Trumpkins are now just in damage control mode*, deflecting by saying he was kidding, much as they have been doing all campaign on Trump’s honest but dumb statements (like the quick spin on Trump’s dealing with the deficit by renegotiating with creditors).
And I stated he was encouraging, not coordinating. But encouraging he was.
*Not saying your comments put you on this group.
Okay hold on here.
You guys are essentially operating under the assumption that Trump is nothing more than a Russian puppet at best, or Russian plant at worst, running for POTUS on top of the GOP ticket with the intent on complete western destruction?
And we’re using Slate as a viable source now?
whew lad what happened around here while I was gone?
lmao…
By November Trump will have been the Roman Solider that drove the first spike into Jesus at this rate.
Read these two points again.
Then read em again.
Then think about what an owner’s job is, or even a GM of a massive hotel
Then read it again.
Fuck me is the press bloodthirsty for this dude. The only question is if it pushes too far before November and backfires (which is obviously Trump’s plan at this point.)
Which a flippant remark does, so I can’t argue that much I guess.
This is just tribalism though. Still plenty of people out there defending Sanders and rationalizing how voting for Clinton is now akin to voting for Sanders, lmao.
I need to stop. I really, really dont’ want to defend Trump but it’s getting to the point were he actually is starting to deserve it based on people’s reactions.
The Clinton foundation is now under investigation by the IRS.
What are the betting odds we find out Clinton cut deals with the Russians in return for Donations?