The Next President of the United States: IV

Leading vote getter in the history of the Republican party.

Go read Scott Adams blog. He breaks down all the persuasion tactics Trump uses in his linguistics. It’s you the fool who think Trumps rise is happenstance

Exactly. And Trump is not very good at picking experts.

He is a great real estate developer. When picking partners and “talent” his track record is poor, and relies on yes men and family.

Did you read the detailed article about his shady Russian backers?

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Until you can account for how the presidential candidate with the warmest-ever rhetoric on Putin has surrounded himself with Kremlin sympathizers (as in “worked to elect a Kremlin puppet in a country that is now being violently sucked into Russia’s sphere of influence because of a series of disasters set in motion in large part by the puppethood of the said Kremlin puppet”) and overtly signaled his intention to vitiate the clause on which the North Atlantic Treaty Organization – and thus the world order – rests…while (the evidence strongly suggests) being the direct beneficiary of an irruption of FSB/GRU cybertradecraft into the American presidential election in an unprecedented act of direct political subterfuge designed to harm Hillary Clinton’s campaign…

…until you can account for that, your skepticism won’t be warranted.

Edit: I mean, read the above. Think about it. I know this has been the kind of year that just drains the outrage batteries, but this is different, and the muted reaction to it is pure lunacy.

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Taleb hates Hillary, has A LOT of money and is listened to by the Arab Christian and shia communities in the US as well as.many secular US sunnis.

That’s not exactly a miniscule part of the electorate, not to mention the potential PR coup of “Arabs for Trump”.

Taleb called him out directly and said that he would vote for him if Trump pledged to break the alliance with the Saudis. Trump said far more controversial stuff, so what’s the problem?

Well, according to some Arab American sources, Saudi investors called Donald. ME guys like kitchy gold plated real estate so we can assume who their guy in real estate is?

I honestly think you’re underestimating Trump’s general intelligence.

Cracks at his political intelligence in Contemporary Climates, sure, but in general the man isn’t likely near as stupid as you’re giving him credit for.

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Not really. It’s par for the course.

The point isn’t who leaked the emails, the point is, they exist and neither party, and neither front runner actually care about anyone in this country.

The smoke screen .gov has had for a long, long time, is now completely blow off and yeah, no one gives a fuck because it just proves what we’ve all known and were too busy being tribal obsessed asshats to admit. We’re nothing but disposable pawns in the elite’s game of chess.

I think Trump knew about the emails long ago, hence his Cinco De May tweet with the Taco Bowl… That seems rather clever now doesn’t it?

That’s what I mean man. Maybe I’m tinfoil to the max here, but you’re upset about what they want the upper crush of intelligent people to be upset about. The lower crust of intelligent people are upset about Republican Convention Male Escort Numbers, and Dems building a fence and requiring Photo ID. You know, the low hanging fruit obvious distractions.

I’m upset that people are still defending any of this sham.

My 2nd amendment rights were striped by executive fiat last week, and the governor of my state just TODAY sent a limp wristed “letter” demanding “clarification” no mention of blatant abuse of power. And this CUNT is speaking tonight at the DNC. I literally became a felon in waiting so she could stand on stage and get applause from moronic sycophants.

So no, I don’t give a flying fuck about Putin or Russia, or think Trump’s relationship with them is dangerous when my own local government is 4 words away from making me choose living and being a father to my daughter or watering the liberty tree with my own blood standing for the rights so many are willing to throw away.

My state applauds martial law and house to house searches for teenage boys who’s dead brother blew up a dozen people in a terror attack, and whenever there is a snow storm…

I’ve got bigger fish to fry right now. And one of them is making clear the issue is the Taco Bowl email exists not who leaked it. People need to see that Team Blue isn’t a good bunch of people thwarted by Team Red at every turn.

We’re dying here. This country is running on empty and so is Europe, and we’re complicate in that. Russia isn’t doing much better. Go time needs to just happen and be done with it. Neither Hillary or Trump are the people to right this ship, they play for the same ultimate team, and that team isn’t concerned about me or my kids.

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She is a bit more hawkish than Obama on geopolitics, which is one of the things the Bernidators don’t like about her. I don’t think she shakes any boots, but I think she is more aggressive than Obama certainly. She predates him and has the prior experience of 1st ladyship as well as Bill. Not that those are positives, but they make her of an “older school” than Obama in foreign policy.

Well his fucking sucks so it can’t get much worse than the last 16 years…

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Nothing else to say–I just wanted to quote this again to get people to read it again for emphasis.

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Trump on NATO

Lol! True… I would agree, but the pessimist in me (and the recent Massachusetts law) indicate it can always get worse…

Look, I understand a lot of the other grievances you brought up, and I share in some of them, and I’m glad I read the post. But it is a non-sequitur to the above, which, in turn, is simply nonsense. If a nuclear weapons state violated the sovereignty and directly intervened in the election of another nuclear weapons state…and got caught…and the latter of the two is us…then that is currently among “the points.” If Vladimir Putin has reason to want one American POTUS candidate over another, and this reason is strong enough that he is willing to deploy FSB and GRU elements in its service, then that is currently among “the points.”

At first you said it wasn’t cut and dried, then you said it doesn’t matter. Whatever the reason for your indifference, I couldn’t possibly find a way to disabuse you of it if the above didn’t do the trick.

I’m thinking that you’re thinking that this type of shit hasn’t been happening for… I don’t know, a hundred years or so now?

It isn’t news that the big scary Russians hacked some emails. Not in the slightest man. This is arguably par for the course. It wouldn’t be news if we did. We’ve been caught spying on allies ffs.

And again, you are looking at this from the high brow distraction point. Literally falling into the marketing scheme concocted for your caste. Who leaked the emails isn’t the point, never was, and never will be. In fact the focus in the media on WHO rather than the content only confirms it for me. Focus on the point is the way the DNC weasels out of the proof they are evil shitlords.

Hook line and sinker.

No doubt Trump is preferred by Putin, and likely because Putin thinks he can take advantage. Trump probably likes the endorsement because he knows people see Putin as Strong (evil, but strong) and Obama as a weak ass pussy, so he wants to be seen as strong too. But when push comes to shove those are two big egos and I doubt Trump will just bend over like the failure in chief we have currently residing in Penn Ave. But neither actually want a head to head show down. Proxy wars? Sure. Faceoff? No fucking way on Earth. Too much cash left on the table and the world economy too soft.

(Unless the plan is total WWIII as population control… Then all bets are off.)

Real talk, Trump isn’t going to win, so it’s doubly moot who leaked the shit.

This was addressed already, but no, you’re wrong. This is literally unprecedented. Political organizations have been hacked before. They have been spied on. Think tanks have been influenced with gifts and cash. Professors have been courted and played.

But the contents of the hacks of political organizations, in the past, have been taken for internal consumption. This is the first time that they have instead been parlayed into a direct and overt political intervention in American affairs. They were published. Deployed concretely as a weapon. For Donald Trump.

This has nothing to do with castes. This has nothing to do with what “they” focus on. Either you understand the world and stakes, or you do not.

Edit: And the fact that we do something like this does not alter in the slightest the gravity of the Russians having tried to do it to us. That’s geopolitics. That’s realism. Glenn Greenwald would disagree, but then again, fuck him and his Assange-Trump-Manafort-Putin circle of apologia.

Wouldn’t a politician with future presidential aspirations be mindful of their words and actions, whether it be in the real world or cyber world ? I mean in this day and age, you can’t get away with shit the way digital media works.

People seem to be more upset that the hack happened, rather than the material that was exposed. A smart candidate would never give an opponent material that can be used against them.

Not disagreeing with what you’re saying, but to me this shows the flaws in her character to make sure she is using a secure server more than the ruthlessness of some hackers.

Well of course there’s no bet if Trump loses- The entire bet is that Trump will not nominate someone who is decidedly conservative to the Supreme Court.

If he does nominate someone who most everyone agrees is a conservative, then you win the bet. If he doesn’t, (pro-gun control, for example), then I win.

I say we bet 100 USD.

Gary Johnson, too.

Is anybody else but me voting on the actual issues they believe in, rather than the lousy personalities running for the office? At the end of the day, the issues are what count to me. It seems like nobody even mentions them any more.

I am not a fan of the candidates, but I know what issues I believe in. The one who claims to believe in most of the issues I believe in, gets my vote.

These days, one liners and zingers are all anybody cares about. At least it seems that way.

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Why isn’t this DNC email controversy getting the attention it actually deserves? The DNC got busted with corruption at the highest levels. If this were an RNC dump revealing the same thing, it would be news 24/7. Republicans would be getting bashed left and right.

Should we start a seperate thread for the DNC email scandal? It might be worth it’s own thread.

This thread is kind of a snake pit.