Don’t you have a cousin marriage to attend? Or is one of your Jihadi pals too busy throwing acid on women’s faces or throwing gays off buildings?
Young people still believe that bullshit we were taught in school, that politicians are morally upstanding people with nothing but the best interests for the public in mind.
I remember my old government class from high school, and my old textbook which was devoid of the truest chapter in all of politics…. bribery, fraud, corruption, thievery, malfeasance, and criminal neglect. It’s being run like a crime syndicate.
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60 speeches yesterday at the DNC and no mention of ISIS.
http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2016/07/26/missing-topic-from-dnc-day-one-isis-n2197872
Which party leader would be a better president for SMH and his pals?
I was going to continue beating the living shit out of you in this thread.
I was going to make the point that you conveniently ignored the unquestionably compelling fact of Trump’s being the beneficiary of Russian Mil-Intel subterfuge while making the unprecedented (and unprecedentedly stupid) announcement that he would perhaps not honor Article 5 in the event of a Russian invasion of a NATO member state. This single comment alone is enough for us (and by “us” I mean “anybody who has ever thought even casually about contemporary geopolitics”) to know to a moral certainty that Vladimir Putin is hoping beyond hope for a Trump victory in November.
I was going to make the point that you ignored Carter Page’s deep interests in and (ongoing) history with Gazprom.
I was going to make the point that whatever “Trump’s campaign manager is in bed with Putin” means, it isn’t what I said. I said that Manafort’s “ties to Kremlin interests are deep and strong.” This, unfortunately for you, is a matter of objective fact, and it is available to you in the public record. Because your interest in international politics is clearly new (and, just as clearly, an accidental function of your interest in elevating an alt-right muppet and buffoon to the presidency as some kind of grand “fuck you” to those of us not afflicted with the interdependent constellation of intellectual bankruptcy, rational deficiency, sexual inadequacy, career underachievement, racial resentment, and general loserishness that has formed the core of Trump support since his first ludicrous days as a candidate), you’ll have a lot to look up. For example, the name Viktor Yanukovych, and the meaning of “Kremlin puppet.”
I was going to add that none of this would be in and of itself terribly grave were it not for the fact that the Russian Mil-Intel apparatus has inserted itself into the American presidential election to the direct benefit of Donald Trump’s campaign and the direct detriment of its rival.
I was going to reiterate that even if all of the above weren’t so, Putin would want Trump in Washington for the simple reason that he (Trump), being the uniquely stupid spearhead of a uniquely stupid political movement, has explicitly endorsed policies of American geopolitical diminishment and economic ruin.
I was going to remind you that a couple months ago I explained to you, in great detail, how and why Trump’s incoherent plan to combat Islamic terrorism by barring Muslim entrants to the United States (or whatever it’s evolved into now) would utterly decimate the very foundation of global counter-terrorism. As I explained, counter-terrorism – you know, the trade that actual professionals practice in the real world while alt-right losers sit in their moms’ basements fantasizing about getting teh white womenz back from teh alpha cuckers – relies fundamentally on the diplomatic relations that would deteriorate overnight in the event of a Trump presidency. Because – and I know you’d never thought of this on your own, that’s OK, it wasn’t expected of you – our ability to access the records of Azerbaijani banks, e.g., is what real anti-jihad involves. This is to say nothing of the fact that the US government’s primary mechanism of covert action requires an exchange of travelers, visitors, and immigrants with the target country.
I was going to do all that and so much more. But alas, I can’t, because this post of yours that I’m quoting, this nonsense-line about “a cousin marriage” is so numbingly stupid and lame, so utterly deficient and adolescent even from the neutral perspective of somebody who enjoys a good insult, so childish and fatuous and above all so fucking impotent, that I simply cannot go on. It would be a masochistic denigration of the worth of my own time for me to waste another fraction of it on as inept and impoverished an opponent as you.
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Dude. Manafort was an advisor to former president of Ukraine and Kremlin puppet Viktor Yanukovich.
Yanukovich was kept on a tight leash by Putin and all his advisors were vetted by the FSB. Including Manafort.
And surprise, surprise, in the GOP platform Trump’s men against everyone else’s wishes removed all references to providing weapons to Ukraine, as Putin has publicly hinted in the Russian media before the RNC.
If you want more proof, please watch something from Putin’s propaganda channel RT America. Virtually every political show (former MSNBC host Ed Schultz comes to mind) is now just one big glorification of Donald J. Trump.
Here’s a typical RT article - note that allegedly offhand Trump’s statement’s about NATO commitments are received here with barely contained glee.
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He’s been an adviser on several Republican campaigns - Ford, Reagan, Both Bushes, Bobe Dole and John McCain. Are you saying he’s been a Russian plant this whole time for all of these campaigns?
It’s scantily reported that the protests outside the DNC are way bigger, exponentially than the ones at the RNC. But even a reporter at NPR was forced to admit that yesterday as I was listening to their report. And it’s not just Bernie people.
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I don’t know and honestly I don’t care.
What I do know is that all his actions and public appearances as Trump’s campaign manager (especially on RT) exactly match Kremlin’s policies and public stances. I mean, 100%. He sometimes verbatim repeated their lines.
That “arms for Ukraine” thing should have been a very, very minor issue for The Donald - he’s gotta build the wall, keep Mexicans and Muslims out, make America great again…
Yet, the first thing his team concentrated on was changing the GOP platform on such an obscure issue. Does the American voter care about this? I believe not. Does Putin care. Yes - very, very much.
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To quote Harry Reid when asked about why he invented the lie about Romney not paying taxes…he didn’t win did he ?
In other words, Trump is in it to win it, and will do what it takes to win. I would also add that, Clinton has taken a shit ton of foreign money, so this notion of Trump being the only candidate using foreign influence is nonsense.
Let us call a spade a spade whenever we see a spade.
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There’s no question about it. Recent US presidents were enthralled by the Saudis, including the Obama administration.
And Trump is not “using foreign influence” - he is letting a person (persons) with very close links to foreign security services (and quite possibly in their pay) define his foreign policy vis-a-vis that geopolitical rival.
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Also didn’t the Soviet Union try to incite racial unrest in the US during the cold war?
Now which side is pushing to import 500K+ Syrian refugees, amnesty illegal invaders and empower black lives matter?
You’re right, Trump may not be taking money, and letting Putin sway our political compass is more than questionable.
My point is, Trump is doing what it takes to win. He didn’t make the rules, he is navigating within the rules to win it. This is what the 16 Republican losers couldn’t understand.
Nobody is said he is a plant. The statement in question from smh was that his ties to Kremlin interests are deep and strong, which is a fact. You said that was conspiracy nuttery, loper provided the facts. Moving the goal posts or posting more nonsense doesn’t change that.
Sad, I enjoyed it.
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“Doing what it takes to win” is not synonymous with allowing a foreign power to influence your political platform (or what little of it resembles detailed policy) towards something so incredibly bad for the US.
We roast Hillary, Bill, and all the others when they pedal influence for money with foreign investors. This is much worse.
I don’t even think he knows he’s doing it, because his advisors are the ones pushing for certain changes. This makes it even worse, because if that is the case he is being used.
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I don’t think anybody on this board will deny that Hillary Clinton is corrupt, or that she has ties to all kinds of unsavory characters. Her foundation grime was always my chief reason not to vote for her (until, of course, the GOP nominated Clusterfuck J. Apocalypse and Clinton became the only person standing between Trump’s tiny little destructive hands and my comfortable life as a free and prosperous citizen of the regnant global superpower).
But none of that is unique. The court has been a chessboard of foreign and special-interest influence, angling, and jockeying since the dawn of civilization. What is unique, and the fact that this is going unaccounted for or being waved away is blowing my mind, is that the influencer took direct action. Subterfuge. The military intelligence of our geopolitical rival (understand that: it means their interests and yours are in direct and explicit opposition) subverting free elections in the United States of America. Imagine, imagine if the Clinton-Saudi money and connections network crossed such a line. Imagine that a direct Saudi operation was launched against Trump’s campaign in violation of US sovereignty.
So, to be clear, it isn’t simply that Trump has (predictably) made the enormous error of surrounding himself with people who have troubling ties to the Kremlin. It is that for the first time in our history his warm and weak rhetoric on Russia seems to have coincided with an act of Russian intervention – not espionage, but direct and concrete intervention – in our electoral process.
None of this has anything to do with being in it to win it or whatever. And we haven’t even gotten to the most sinister part: WHY does the Russian intelligence apparatus want Donald Trump to win in November? Can one American candidate accomodate both your political interests and Putin’s? If not, who is likely to have the better read of the landscape, you or Putin? Who is getting played? Trump sure as shit is. That’s what happens to the extravagantly and buffoonishly stupid when they back ass-first into the wild.
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And what do you think he’s insinuating by that?
Why TB why in the world would you think that I was referring to you?
So Trump would have to be elected and then have to pick what most credible journals agree is a conservative Judge. If those two things happen I win. If Trump loses there is no bet. Do I have that correct?
What side do the Saudis want elected?
Which side does Wallstreet want elected?
Which side does the unfriendly neighbour to the south want elected?
Which side does ISIS want elected? I think Germany and France know that answer
Which side does the anti-cop pro-anarchy black live matter group want elected?
Which side do the socialist want elected?
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I would only need one thing for me to actually believe this and that is some really good PROOF.
Thank you,
ZEB