The Next President of the United States: IV

[therajraj]

@ActivitiesGuy

@anon50325502

None of the hijackers were US citizens. The attack was planned outside the United States. It has nothing at all to do with Muslim immigration. Nothing.

You’re right, but I assume that raj (obliquely) does not just want a ban on Muslim immigration, he wants a wholesale travel ban from that region.

He’s still kinda conflating the influx of Muslim immigrants with a terrorist attack that could have been carried out by mere visitors, but I assume his argument is that his brand of Trumped-Up-No-Migration includes zero visitors allowed from those countries.

[treco]

@treco

I would be interested in the perspective behind the tireless championing of diversity.
Married to a different race, adopted by different race, religious instruction, prioritization of education system, or something else?

It literally flies in the face of every history of every people group, throughout thousands of years of record.

I’ll throw this right back up here, along with the implied it takes immigration to make the diversity actually occur.
Let’s hear some personal reasons why some of you are such ardent defenders. Not interested in Raj is a xenophobe or we are a nation of immigrants (what country isn’t if you go back in time). There must be some personal reasons unless some of you have merely staked a position to defend against all adversary.

excuse poor grammar

[anon50325502]

@ActivitiesGuy

@anon50325502

None of the hijackers were US citizens. The attack was planned outside the United States. It has nothing at all to do with Muslim immigration. Nothing.

You’re right, but I assume that raj (obliquely) does not just want a ban on Muslim immigration, he wants a wholesale travel ban from that region.

He’s still kinda conflating the influx of Muslim immigrants with a terrorist attack that could have been carried out by mere visitors, but I assume his argument is that his brand of Trumped-Up-No-Migration includes zero visitors allowed from those countries.

Yes, we’ve covered this completely retarded blanket policy before. 100M muslims in India, ginger jihad in the UK, 10M Chinese Muslim, all banned. All retarded.

I’ll say again what I’ve said beforw. Cutting off all travel from a specific state or region for strategic purposes is fine. Cutting off travel based on a religion, which isn’t logistics possible, is retarded.

I’m out of word at this point, it’s fucking retarded.

[anon50325502]

I already answered it above.

[anon50325502]

@anon50325502

@therajraj

You’ve been presented mounds of evidence multiple times.

Probably have discussed immigration at least 3 times with you.

Your “mounds of evidence” are not sufficient because they aren’t evidence. The BS link you posted earlier is garbage and I pointed out why, which I see you have not disputed.

You see what you want to see, but many of us demand a bit more than a poor interpretation and/or a flat out misrepresentation from a guy that also wrote IS GLOBALISM ACTUALLY DEMONIC.

@ActivitiesGuy

Exactly. Life isn’t that bad. And yet Donald Trump is running entirely on a platform of “the entire country is collapsing, Obama was terrible, Hillary will be worse, and I’m the only one who can save America from the immigrants.”

Yup…

@ActivitiesGuy

Come on, you don’t think raj actually reads the shit that he posts, do you?

Things like “context” and “nuance” are entirely foreign to Trump and his fans.

Yes, I am coming to that conclusion as well.

@treco

I would be interested in the perspective behind the tireless championing of diversity.

It isn’t about diversity for diversity’s sake. It’s about the American Dream. It’s about creating an atmosphere of freedom and liberty that offers the opportunity for the world’s best and brightest to make the most out of their lives.

It has worked out quite well for the United States thus far.

@treco

It literally flies in the face of every history of every people group, throughout thousands of years of record.

So did the creation of the world’s first real Constitutional Republic.

@therajraj

If you were take people from Central America say Honduras and dropped a few hundred thousand of them in Japan every year for 50 years, would Japan stay the same culturally?

This is a completely ridiculous and false parallel,which you’re well aware of. Japan is a highly homogenous state. The United States has an entirely different culture and history. Christ, you could take a couple of hundred thousand Texan’s and drop them into Maryland every year for 50 years and the culture in MD would be totally different.

I agree, this is getting old. It’s the same shit. You just ignore 240 years of American history because it doesn’t jive with your view of the world.

@therajraj

Do you expect Hondurans to worship at Shinto temples, follow traditional Japanese ceremonies and adopt all the uniquely Japanese practises? Or would they largely stick to their own culture and build a mini Honduras in Japan?

I assume you are against Christian mission work then? Spreading the Gospel and all?

@Aragorn

You have no idea what the term “evidence” really means, OR how to analyze statistics. usmc and ActivitiesGuy have illustrated that repeatedly.

Yoy don’t just get to say “I like the numbers so therefore they’re applicable”.

Thank you!

@treco it’s in this blurb

[therajraj]

Trump is inviting Obama’s half brother to the debate.

Obama’s half brother supports Trump

[therajraj]

John Kerry leaned on the Ecuadorian Embassy to cut off Assange’s internet access until the election is over.

Will it honestly matter? I’m sure they have protocols in place at wikileaks to carry on even if Assange dies/goes MIA

[RampantBadger]

Yeah serious shit. Watergate was 1 break in. This is a campaign to incite violence and commit voter fraud running for months and perpetrated in multiple states.

Like WTF!! -reduces us to a banana republic.

[treco]

Thanks looks like this thread had couple of hundred posts today.
Thought maybe Zeb came through.

[SkyzykS]

@treco

Let’s hear some personal reasons why some of you are such ardent defenders.

Because I don’t have to look too far back to see where I came from.

A better argument would be that many of the best and brightest world changers immigrated here or were first generation born and made America the leader of the free world, but that would be disingenuous.

I don’t think we should blow the doors open, but we shouldn’t slam them shut.

[Aragorn]

@ActivitiesGuy

Do you read the things you post?

“Migrants from Muslim-Majority Countries” /=/ “Muslims”

If 1 million Americans migrated to Canada, that wouldn’t mean Canada had imported 1 million white Christians

Sure, you know they might be secular people fleeing a hell hole they don’t want to go back to. Or Yazidi, or Christian, or Hindi, or fucking Zoroastrian. That’s a real, historically verified and observed reason people emigrate, and it happens quite often and especially during conflict

But we already know he has no clue how to analyze or assess evidence or statistics.

[smh_23]

@therajraj

I’m sure they have protocols in place at wikileaks to carry on even if Assange dies/goes MIA

They do, in the red folder marked план действий в непредвиденных обстоятельствах.

[Aragorn]

@therajraj

MUSLIMS BRING ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE TO AMERICA

That’s complete bullshit and you know it. I used to work with a professor who was muslim. He brought tons of intellect and talent to our core facility. He published a ton of research. And there are more like that. Don’t say stupid shit. Try not living in fear, it’s fantastic.

[Aragorn]

@treco

I’ll throw this right back up here, along with the implied it takes immigration to make the diversity actually occur.
Let’s hear some personal reasons why some of you are such ardent defenders

Well again, I don’t feel like we are defending the super liberal diversity at all costs program. I’m not opposed to controlling our borders at all.

I am opposed to people misusing statistics, articles, and oblique support for a surveillence state, and fearmongering. I know that’s not what you wanted to hear but that’s why I keep responding–you’ll notice I’m not responding to pat because his opinion, while it shares quite a fair amount with raj’s crazy, is much more nuanced and pat has demonstrated the ability to reason, think, and respond intelligently. All of these things are things I believe in.

And again, I’m not opposed to filtering immigration and certainly not opposed to stopping illegal immigration.

[Aragorn]

@SkyzykS

I don’t think we should blow the doors open, but we shouldn’t slam them shut

You said it much more concisely. Exactly.

[therajraj]

@treco

@treco

I would be interested in the perspective behind the tireless championing of diversity.
Married to a different race, adopted by different race, religious instruction, prioritization of education system, or something else?

It literally flies in the face of every history of every people group, throughout thousands of years of record.

I’ll throw this right back up here, along with the implied it takes immigration to make the diversity actually occur.
Let’s hear some personal reasons why some of you are such ardent defenders. Not interested in Raj is a xenophobe or we are a nation of immigrants (what country isn’t if you go back in time). There must be some personal reasons unless some of you have merely staked a position to defend against all adversary.

excuse poor grammar

Treco:

This is a great post to explain why they object so much. They all know that one Muslim guy with a heart of gold and are unaware how vile the bottom third of Muslims truly are.

The Next President of the United States: IV

That’s complete bullshit and you know it. I used to work with a professor who was muslim. He brought tons of intellect and talent to our core facility. He published a ton of research. And there are more like that. Don’t say stupid shit. Try not living in fear, it’s fantastic.

When they hear the words out of Trumps mouth it sends them into fits of rage because they can’t stop thinking of that one Muslim with the heart of gold

This is what their tolerance brings them in the end of course

Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal

[thunderbolt23]

@thunderbolt23

@thunderbolt23

@therajraj

My gf is voting Trump because of me

This seems a dubious claim - mainly due to the lack of believability of you having a girlfriend. But I digress.

But stop evading the question - what are you doing to make sure you aren’t diluting our cultural purity? Abandoning anarcho-capitalism as a philosophy (a distinctively un-American political philosophy)?

C’mon, this is super important to you, you can’t stop talking about it. Ok, so what are you, as an immigrant, doing to make sure the American culture is preserved instead of changed?

@therajraj - let’s hear it. Time’s wasting.

@therajraj - need you to weigh in on this. Shouldn’t we be concerned your presence in our country is diluting our culture? Why are you afraid to answer the question?

[ActivitiesGuy]

@therajraj

They all know that one Muslim guy with a heart of gold and are unaware how vile the bottom third of Muslims truly are.

The bottom third of “white America” isn’t looking so hot at this particular moment, either.

What should we do about them?

[ActivitiesGuy]

Taking this to its logical conclusion:

If the premise that we must shut ourselves off from an entire region of the world and an entire religion because some small portion of them might turn out to be responsible for violence and death of American citizens…

Do we have to shut ourselves off from everything that will result in violence and/or death of American citizens?

How do you feel about the Second Amendment, raj? Should we get rid of all the guns in the States because some of them will one day be responsible for the deaths of American citizens?

[anon50325502]

@ActivitiesGuy

Taking this to its logical conclusion:

If the premise that we must shut ourselves off from an entire region of the world and an entire religion because some small portion of them might turn out to be responsible for violence and death of American citizens…

Do we have to shut ourselves off from everything that will result in violence and/or death of American citizens?

How do you feel about the Second Amendment, raj? Should we get rid of all the guns in the States because some of them will one day be responsible for the deaths of American citizens?

This was already explained to him, but, of course, it will be ignored, again.