I have done none of that. And frankly, I find your characterization
of them as poor little “victims” of racist American citizens
distasteful.
Never said they were poor little “victims” and never even brought racism into it, if they made it into America than they are fortunate just like anyone born here. I stated that the fact that they are here illegally enables people to pin their problems on them which is not only inaccurate it’s counterproductive in us finding real solutions.
No, they are not. At least with legal folks there is some sort of a
vetting; at the very minimum, the patience and perseverance that it
takes to get through the process helps to sort out the worst of them
(gang members, etc.). And even if you were right, the answer would be to simply limit immigration from that region.
Which is why I said the debate surrounding border security would be boring, people could pretty easily agree on a need to increase security at the border. Then we could realistically exclude bad actors from entering the country via the southern boarder. Instead the Trumpkins get a hard on over the fantasy of deporting 10 million people and building a glorious wall to keep them out for good. All this is again counterproductive to making some actual commonsense and effective immigration reform.
Having lived overseas for 2 and a half decades, I can tell you that people from other countries find it laughable.
Yes, sort of like our affinity for the 2nd amendment is often laughed at. We’re different in America, we’ve always had lax immigration policies primarily because we previously didn’t have to worry about an undue burden on the nanny state. We also haven’t typically shared the same cultural insecurity or felt the need to protect it from migrant influences. This however digresses from the debate we’re having with regard to legal/illegal status. My original argument was directed at the fact that the blame being directed(not necessarily by you) at illegal immigrants was more generally implied for all immigrants from that region.
That is nothing but PC bullshit. They are in the country illegally.
The concept of sovereign borders is universally accepted the world over.
They are illegal immigrants, and no more “undocumented immigrants” than a car thief is an “unregistered automobile owner.”
It’s semantics, just the same as I may call an unregistered firearm unregistered instead of illegal
Personally I don’t care what phrase is used as I use either depending on the context, as much as PC safe spaces are being abused a little discretion with how you phrase an argument can go a long way in getting what you want.