The Next President of the United States: IV

Again, perhaps, but I think people will just find a way around a wall that spans such a large distance.

The whole immigration systems needs an overhaul.

Sure, a barrier won’t stop immigration altogether, but it reduces it considerably. It also is a show of good faith that government can be trusted to handle the issue, and voters are more open to give government the power to handle it.

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Lying like a buffoon – and in such a way that is easily falsifiable – doesn’t win votes, either.

Rationality was classically understood to be one of the chief masculine traits. It was only recently, when “masculinity” became an internet-based obsession for pitiable little losers who don’t get laid and therefore spend enormous amounts of their time obsessing over why and how they don’t get laid, that masculinity came to be understood as this juvenile, pathetic, ten-point process of performative tricks that might – just might! – confuse some poor woman into letting a ludicrous nobody put his little dick in her for twenty nauseating seconds.

Which is to say that most of us aren’t the kind of “men” for whom owning up to deliberate falsehood (“acting like a scolded child,” in your unmasculine formulation) is a net-negative act.

Dude you must love hate fapping to my posts.

You can put me on ignore thanks

Uh, nah. I’m going to continue deriding you for the stupid, racist, alt-right, MRA loser that you are. Constantly. That’s a promise.

I’m not sure I buy the first part Max. Most of the illegals are Visa overstays iirc.

I wonder where twitter temper tantrums and conspiracy theories fall with men?

The best guess is around 40% of illegal immigrants are visa overstayers, not quite most but still a significant chunk. Make an immigrant visa similar to a credit card, every time you use your credit card, the time, date, and amount are recorded. Scan an immigrant visa as they come in, if there is no scan out by the time it expires or is renewed, then go detain them.

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Owning up to misconduct: not manly.

Trafficking in tabloid innuendo like a gossipy, chain-smoking old lady who picks up the Enquirer at the supermarket every day: manly.

3 a.m. catfights with Megyn Kelly: the manliest.

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How will you find them? Will you monitor them during their stay here? Would there be a database maintained at our expense?

I thought I read it was higher than that, but I buy it. So, a very expensive wall might stop illegal entry into the country for some percentage of 60% of illegals. That’s okay, I guess. It’s not exactly knocking my socks off.

The information you mention is already provided in the visa application, which most likely goes into a database.

I’m not trying to prove anything in regards to racist/crazy/hateful. People surely can take his comments that way, but I’m simply pointing out the dishonesty of claiming that trump “brought the issue to closure”.

There is no problem with using somebody’s own words to discredit a falsehood they are claiming. Trump just makes it too easy.

I think most people, even Trumpkins, know he is dishonest and full of shit. I just don’t know if they even care.

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If anything is obvious so far, I think it is clear they don’t. Fair point.

I am different and value people who can make intellectually honest arguments, even if I disagree with them.

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If their intention is to legally enter, but illegally stay how will you track them?

I’m not a fan of government run databases.

A little clarification about the Birther origins…

“The campaign, nor Hillary, did not start the birther movement. Period. End of the story,” Patti Solis Doyle told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.

She did say, however, that a volunteer coordinator in Iowa in late 2007 “did forward an email that promoted the (birther) conspiracy.”

“Hillary made the decision immediately to let that person go. We let that person go. And it was beyond the pale, Wolf, and so not worthy of the kind of campaign that certainly Hillary wanted to run or that we as a staff wanted to run that I called David Plouffe, who was obviously managing Barack Obama’s campaign in '07, to apologize and basically say that this was not coming from us. It was a rogue volunteer coordinator,” Doyle added.

I hear you man, just thinking of how to best solve this problem.

Trump better hope he doesn’t have to be held accountable for the forwarded emails of campaign volunteers. Remember when NPR or PBS interviewed a Trump phone-jockey and she was covered in “14” and “88” tats?

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Doesn’t matter in my book, Trump is a fucking idiot for jumping on this bandwagon.

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It doesn’t make sense. The news cycle has been viciously anti-Clinton for like 9 days, and he brought all the heat to himself.

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