Why would you attack the information instead of the source. because doing it in the other way is a logical fallacy.
Because I wasn’t given any useful information. I was given a picture of a table from a third party analysis of source data.
Again, why would I spend hours going through the source data because a suspect organization, founded by a lunatic, comes up with a conclusion that literally no one else has come up with?
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This literally means nothing.
Blacks represent like 13% of the U.S. population and account for 29% of Medicaid. There are numerous factors to consider.[/quote]
It means the US already has a large underclass of people that are disproportionately black. It means if Hispanics are increasing the underclass, then why are they continually being added to the population?
That’s the whole point. Instead of continually increasing the underclass, why not get these people jobs first before adding more?
I could dig it up, but there’s really no point. That’s what CIS does, they sift through large swaths of data and summarize the findings. None of us are going to do that.
But every criticism I’ve seen of CIS has been the people involved as opposed to the methodology or data source.
By the way Hispanics have extremely poor literacy rates. Why on earth would you want to keep adding people to the population who can barely read or write?
And you think this is because they’re black? Or do you think maybe there are like 50 other factors to consider?
Number of Hispanics on Medicaid decreased from 2011 to 2012 (27.9 to 26.9) and they are less likely to stay on welfare long term than black or Pacific Islanders:
Again, we have a welfare problem not an immigratiuon problem.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/jolts.pdf
Like I’ve said multiple times now. There are numerous factors the least of which is the color of a person’s skin / their country of origin.
Good for them. So do all sorts of other self-proclaimed independent institutions. That doesn’t mean they’re right. It doesn’t mean they’re wrong either.
This is how some of us make our living…
You can teach people how to read and write…
I hate doing everything on a phone. Ill get to a desktop and check out the sources. This is a subject I am very well versed in
When you say “hand it over to Hillary” I just have to believe that not only are you not a small business person, or in a high tax bracket but that you actually think that it doesn’t matter that she promised to load the court with left wing judges. Winning the Presidency in 2020 will not change the court if she has four years to appoint say two more left wingers. This changes the country forever.
Trump will win not because I want him to but because Hillary is the single worst candidate to ever represent the democrat party. She is not likeable, she is unhealthy and she is as corrupt as they come. Nixon was impeached for less than what Hillary has done as SOS…and she isn’t going to win the Presidency.
If that is the case then I’d be happy to hear what you have to say. Maybe the source data tells this story, but, let’s just say I’m a bit skeptical.
I think you should hold what you’ve posted to the same standard.
It looks like MPI has the data:
You can even download an excel spreadsheet.
Generaly people cherry pick or mix in inappropriate demographic groups. they almost never make things up.
Yes, that is more or less what I mean. I don’t think they’ve made things up. It’s a matter of methodology and, as you said, cherry picking.
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Maybe this is just an elaborate plot by the NEA to increase funding! 
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Illegal immigration doesn’t account for what he was posting about. This thread has been bent toward simple anti-immigrant nativism for a while.
Edit: his description was “where the county is 29% white.” We’ve moved about a million miles beyond illegal immigration. A lament for the demise of whiteness, and benthic therajraj babbling about eugenics. I think we all know what this territory is called.
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I don’t want there to be a new entitlement here. But frankly I find that to be a less interesting conversation. Taxing people and using the money to do something for the people is the purpose of government. The staunchest libertarian (which Gary Johnson is not, btw) agrees that some degree of taxation in order to pay for some services is justified. If you don’t believe that, you are an anarchist.
The question I am raising, though, is when and why does the government have the right to collect taxes and the provide services and benefits only to certain individuals.
Red flags in Iowa TB, and I don’t mean ones suggesting Republicanism, can’t go there.
As I said before, because Latinos vote Dem by a 70-30 margin, immigration is used as a Trojan horse for Dems to usher in whatever agenda they choose. Tax and spending policies, cap and trade, high speed rail, massive government pension and benefit programs…all of them passed by democrats and all financial losers. But my newest most favorite government fuck up is… Free community college for one year for high school graduates. No GPA requirement necessary, just graduate high school. Wanna guess how that will turn out ? Oh I know, it’s “free” so there is nothing to worry about.
TB, what California is is a political Petri dish, and I can only hope people learn to not follow in lockstep.
It is not the purpose of our government.
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That is not the purpose of government. You don’t have a right to someone else’s money just because YOU believe in the cause.
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Dey raycess ! Those nativist pricks ! Maybe they are just sick and tired of having to deal with their illegal immigrants. No, couldn’t be that, because hate-whitey is now boarding and Trump is driving.
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Do you pay school tax and yet have no kid in school?
Do any of your Federal general fund taxes go to Medicaid?
and so on when living in a collective society.
Perhaps purpose is the wrong word. But a government that doesn’t collect resources from the governed is not a government. It is not the purpose, but it is the essence of a government.