Hillary lost Michigan to Bernie last night. MICHIGAN! What will it take for Debbie Wasserman Schultz to realize that even within her own party people don’t want Hillary. But she is still playing party boss and shoving Hillary down the democrats throats. That’s really going to hurt her come November. At least with the republicans there is an open war going on. And in my opinion that is healthy compared to running a someone on the verge of indictment, a well known liar and incompetent, against an old Socialist.
Honestly, anyone who thinks Hillary Clinton is a viable Presidential candidate is a moron.
Trump’s press conference was bizarre. I caught 10-15 minutes on the radio and he was incoherent and rambling at times. Then I get home and see some video and pics of that ridiculous spread of Trump products. I get that his image of business magnate is intertwined with his campaign pitch but the steakmonger angle isn’t working. No one cares about steaks and boxed wine and a lot of that stuff is now defunct so what the heck was he thinking? His last big post-election press conference was much crisper and the only major WTF moment was awkward ass Christie in the corner.
Hillary technically won last night but the real story is her mega bust in Michigan. Massive upset from Bernie and I think he’ll keep to his word about staying in till the bitter end. What else is he going to do with all that cash? This is further proof that Hill is going to have a big problem with working and middle class white guys when she battles Trump. She’s also not getting enough black people out to vote despite her lock on that electorate.
I found it amusing that both Bern and Trump were using the same playbook on trade deals/policy and jobs going to Mexico and China when discussing their wins in Michigan. They were nearly identical.
Cruz is a lucky guy. His current delegate position and momentum can be chalked up to the favorable primary schedule this election cycle. Now he’s looking to knock out Rubio and force him to expend all of his cash and effort in his home state so Cruz can cherry pick Mizz and N Carolina. Cruz and his PAC’s should be running anti-Rubio ads in FL and pro-Cruz adds in MO and NC. I can’t decide if he should be rooting for a Kasich surprise in OH or not.
Trump is going to mop the floor with Cruz in a lot of the big money states left on the schedule. Not a lot of evangelical or uber conservative states left for Cruz. But if he’s the last one left he’ll still get a respectable amount of delegates. Cruz is playing for 2020 and going for the whole “inevitability” factor for the future. Not a bad play and very shrewd to focus on knocking Rubio out of the contest.
Poor Marco is in a quite the predicament right now and is in a no win situation. 2016 is obviously over for him but he needs to consider the rest of his political career, which I think is FUBAR. If he loses in FL that will seriously damage his future and if he loses big it’s over for him. But he can’t really quit less than a week out b/c he’ll look like a turd and will also piss off a lot of people who voted early for him and/or supported him. With Cruz/Cruz PAC gearing up to spend big on anti-Marco propaganda in FL, Marco can’t really do anything but focus on FL. No doubt Marco is cursing the primary schedule and Kasich right now. He doesn’t deserve it but I think he could be “Cruz” right now under different circumstances.
Drudge called it 2 weeks ago that Trump was the nominee and he’s been proven correct. How this guy is winning this random assortment of states is remarkable and is literally unprecedented. Marco and Kasich are going to bow out after March 15th and then Trump has it easy peasy into May. I believe he’ll win outright and there won’t even be a chance for a contested convention. Cruz and Paul Ryan will be your match up for 2020/2024.
Romney didn’t help with bringing sanity to the primary. He would have gotten a lot more respect if he did this months ago. Now he just looks like a hypocritical phony lacking in self awareness. Whether it’s true or not his speech looks contrived and coordinated with other “establishment elites”. I would be surprised if Romney wasn’t present (or at least kept privy) at a lot of these establishment meetings that have taken place over the last 3 or so weeks.
He waited entirely too long to do this and then doesn’t even endorse a candidate but tells people to strategically vote against Trump. The suggestion by itself is absurd but also looks sketchy since he’s promoting a brokered convention. Telling OH voters that support Cruz or Rubio to vote for Kasich is just weak sauce. He claims he wasn’t considering running but not too many people believe him. A brokered convention will lead to mayhem and won’t be doing anyone favors.
Oh, I’m not so sure. I know everyone seems so surprised she lost Michigan, but Sanders worships at the Union altar. With Detroit’s history, it doesn’t surprise me all that much.
She might have a problem in the general with this demographic, but I’m just not sure this is proof of that.
I agree he should’ve done it months ago, but maybe he assumed people would be able to figure it out for themselves and it wasn’t his place? Once he realized that people were voting for a conspiracy theorist for the nominee and it wasn’t just a one-off state he said something about it
If you are a Rubio supporter what is the point of voting for him in OH? It’s winner take all. The only people with a realistic chance at winning are Trump and Kasich. If you don’t want Trump and are a Rubio supporter in OH, voting for Kasich is logical and the smart thing to do.
Actually Hillary was only in it b/c of her dominance of Detroit and Wayne county. She definitely has a problem with non-rich white guys and it looked like nearly every “white” county went to Bernie. I mean these are blue collar dudes voting for a socialist Jew b/c they don’t like Hillary. Just think about that.
People are acting surprised b/c Hillary was up 24 or so points in RCP’s poll average. It was a huge bust for her and exposes a lot of warts people have been talking about for awhile now.
Hillary dominates by damn near 70 points in Mississippi b/c most blue collar white guys in Miss are voting republican. Black people (especially rural ones) don’t know what to make of Bernie. Rural, southern black people aren’t going to be much help for Hill in the general like they are in the primary.
Now I still think Clinton is a powerful politician with the strongest chance of winning 2016. All I’m saying is she will have her work cut out for her in the general.
Look, I get it, I just think it’s slimy and anti-American. He’s advocating for people to strategically vote in a manner that suits himself and wants an outcome in which party elites literally decide who the nominee will be. He is not interested in Americans deciding this matter, and not endorsing a candidate makes it look even more dubious. Why even have elections if the “smart thing to do” always seems to involve accepting the wisdom of the rich people who finance the political parties? Voting for your guy/gal says something even if it doesn’t lead to immediately tangible results.
For example, I believe Ron Paul and Bob Barr voters in the past have forced the republican party to accept more libertarian views on issues. Sure they never got elected or ever had a chance but it forced a major political party to start giving a shit about libertarians. Also, consider the general election. It still means something to vote your choice even if your state is not a swing state. It matters for many reasons (e.g.; perception of mandate power, future campaign investments, etc).
This is why I get a kick out of the Bernie and Trump campaigns. I don’t trust either to be president but they are going to force the democrats and republicans to start operating a little bit differently now that AMERICAN PEOPLE are declaring they’re not going to blindly accept the collective wisdom of a select few power brokers. This was a long time coming.
The other obvious response are that upsets happen all the time in politics.
I wouldn’t say that he is directly telling people who to vote for, that’s why he didn’t endorse a particular candidate. What he is proposing is meant to appeal to the people who don’t want Trump to win more so than they may want their particular candidate to win.
As we’ve seen on this thread there is a hyooge group of conservatives that don’t want trump as the nominee. Probably more so than they want their preferred candidate of the remaining 3. Romney was just trying to organize it, too little too late in my opinion though.
I agree completely with this and said something similar previously. Mitt should have done this back when Trump initially went off the rails, instead he let Rubio and to a lesser extent Cruz throw the first blows. This not only completely derailed Rubios message and appeal but definatively painted the other candidates as pawns in the establishment group. Just dumb but I do believe the “establishment” really overestimated their constituency in rooting him out but also underestimated the despise that many of their voters have for them
Pretty much everybody shrugged Trump off, not just the GOP. The thing is it should’ve been clear near the end of July that this was not a joke. That’s when I figured it out and I don’t have a staff of analysts or a career based in politics.
Bernie could have been doing the same thing to the Democrats that Trump is doing right now to the Republicans. He just can’t get any minority support b/c he’s a liberal stiff from Vermont and doesn’t understand how to communicate with them.
I’m actually thinking that a big blow to Bernie has been Trump, most of Trumps wins have been in open Primaries and from what I’ve heard a surprising amount of people are deciding between Trump or Bernie. I tend to suspect Trump has been stealing away a lot of votes in the open primaries that would have gone Bernie’s way
Spot on they underestimated him just as they will in the general election should Trump survive the convention.
Trump can win this with a coalition of white males, working class democrats, seniors, those who can’t stomach a liar (yes I know Trump is also a liar but at least he’s not under investigation by the FBI) and those many people who never voted but seem to want to vote for Trump.
And as I have said before, perhaps many times, I will take Trump over Hillary in a heart beat. It’s true that Trump might be lying about much of what he wants to do. But then again he may feel he has to do much of it for reelection purposes, to avoid a primary as an unpopular President. Hillary on the other hand has promised to do absolutely everything that I oppose.