Does anyone else here feel that Trump supporters and Sanders supporters are the same? I see both use vague rhetoric to lure in voters. Their supporters will bend over backwards and do mental gymnastics when faced with specific problems with either.
When I speak with supporters of either I end up in the same type of conversation. In either case I wonder if it’s stubbornness because that’s “their guy,” or if they just put blinders on to believe the fairy tale.
You don’t think that someone who was well covered by all networks calling Trump a liar and a fake hurt him? I have no doubt Cruz worked hard. I think there are multiple factors involved.
Not really surprised. There’s a significant segment of the population that will never fill those “irreplaceable jobs.” You can quote cold hard economics, and point to the seductiveness of cheaper consumer goods at Walmart, if you’d like, but it does nothing for folks who’ve just been told, “sorry, but we’ll be moving your jobs to Mexico” as in that video that made its rounds here on PWI. And then they’ve experienced those lower-paying “to get by for now” jobs being increasingly occupied by foreign-looking faces here at home. Maybe they could take out some of those crushing government subsidized loans so they ALL can compete with each other (and with people with foreign accents) for those finite “safe jobs” (some which might only be safe for now.)
Nope, this segment spans both parties. And always will. We’re simply not all going to be lawyers, doctors, and state-side engineering supervisors. And hey, someone has to forgo the extended treadmill of education and “securing my high-powered career first” into their 30-40s in order to have a replacement rate level of children to cover our entitlement obligations. This cuts across both parties.
Speaking of which…This same large group also do NOT want entitlements touched outside of “waste, fraud, and abuse” (a miniscule part of the problem), on both sides of the aisle.
We work for fewer and fewer (relative) multi-nationals, whose 'owner’s no longer live in our towns, states, or even our nation with a higher concentration of capital and less of that “golden era” mom and pop" businesses up and down our streets. Walmart and Mcdonalds. And sometimes that McDonalds is in the Walmart. Oh, and those guys who might not even live in your nation anymore have seen their income go up while our own have been stagnant in comparison.
As far as maybe some torture and deliberate women and children killing? Well, we’d be doing it to protect “progress, liberalism, and the perfection of equality.” People from both sides will find themselves justifying torture with this sort of thinking.
And the SecDef is nominated by the president, but the point stands regardless: it takes an objective and unqualified idiot, a complete and utter buffoon, to want to put great power/responsibility – with what, under the circumstances, is not even close to enough constraint – in the hands of a person who both does not understand the simplest things about his charge and cannot communicate meaningful information like an adult speaker of the English language. That recipe is filed under unmitigated clusterfuck of a disaster.
But this thread has been tracing the circle of the above truth for days. It’s become far, far too easy – like arguing that two and two make four. The only question is, What kind of debased, anti-intellectual masochism can so confuse a man as to drive him to seek a thrashing with the claim that two and two actually make five? I’m no longer interested in finding out. Until the next time a mob of classless, stupid, morally-bankrupt clowns shows its collective ass and the Deluded Protectors of the Garbage People are called to arms in defense of Steaming Trashland, adieu.
Ah: a joke intended to close out my further participation in this non-debate. Not one directed at you. (Very, very sloppy for me to have tacked it on to the end of a post that had quoted you. Was in a rush.)
“This class’s fatal feature is its belief that ordinary Americans are a lesser intellectual and social breed. Its increasing self-absorption, its growing contempt for whoever won’t bow to it, its dependence for votes on sectors of society whose grievances it stokes, have led it to break the most basic rule of republican life: deeming its opposition illegitimate.”
found this in an article someone posted a link to on this thread