Trump has so little clue about the actual functioning of an economy it’s downright horrific. Doesn’t he realize that even a fraction of the shit he’s said during the primaries, were he to utter such horseshit while he was the President, would rock the economy?
What kind of confidence in the American economy would there be if we suddenly stopped all trade with Mexico in some bizarre attempt at forcing them to pay for a mythical wall? Has this fucking guy never heard of the 1979-1980 global money crisis? Even the threat of being on bad terms with the U.S., and having assets frozen as a result, can trigger a massive drop in the demand for the dollar and a massive increase in the velocity of the dollar. This guy’s sheer level of ignorance is rivaled only by those who support him.
I find it hard to believe that so many people cannot see the unmitigated disaster that Trump as president would be. The man is a failure in nearly every department of his own life, and is clearly lacking in knowledge, wisdom, intelligence, gravitas. How could he do anything other than make the United States the laughing stock of the planet, or worse, a perpetrator of actual evil? What, other than words, dishonest and foolish words at that, gives people the impression that he could effectively govern the behemoth that is the USA? What is so convincing about Donald Trump???
Trump could run independent should he lose the nomination (as the republican establishment is planning). But, I doubt he will for two reasons:
Regardless of all the posturing about how he is spending his own money, like everything else with Trump you have read between the lines. He has spent less than any other candidate because the media gives him free publicity. He has also received many donations. In reality he really does not want to spend his own money as he does not have as much readily available cash as he claims (nor is his net worth as high as he claims). In the Real estate game much of your money is tied up. He would have to liquidate quite a lot of real estate to competitive and he’s not going to do that.
He knows that he would lose a third party run. Sure he’d be a great spoiler and hand it to the democrats but he’d also be branded as a loser. That is something Trump can’t stomach.
Based on those two reasons while he might be really mad about not getting the nomination…and he’d speak out against the republican candidate, he won’t run third party should he lose the nomination.
Obama has already made the USA a laughing stock with his feckless foreign policy moves. As for Trump being a failure in his own life you better think again. He is a billionaire, not nearly what he claims, but nonetheless he’s very wealthy. He married a beautiful world class model and has some great kids. Okay he is orange and has funny looking hair…oh and he’s a blowhard but you can’t call him a failure for those things.
Heck, my neighbor is overweight and a blowhard as well. He lives alone, no model wife, collects unemployment and his son who is in his 30’s plays video games all day, now there is a failure. but I digress. No Trump is not a failure by any stretch of the imagination. But, he is certainly a poor choice for the Presidency. I sincerely hope the republican establishment can keep him from the nomination as they are planning at this very moment. I would hate to have to pull the lever for him over the lying stinking Clinton machine and I really don’t want to have to make that choice.
I guess we should know tonight but I’m starting to think this might get dragged out into a brokered convention. If so I think there’s a good chance Trump will rage and go independent, everyone is saying that this will completely split the republican party but I’m not entirely sure. Trump would run to win no doubt in my mind and he knows he wouldn’t pull nearly enough from the republicans to do so my guess is he would position as an populist political outsider. Considering he wouldn’t be running in a republican primary anymore he could pretty much say anything he wanted. I think he would end up pulling a awful lot of disenfranchised democrats with him. Thoughts?
I don’t see how the Republican party will ever be the same. If Trump loses all of his supports are going to feel cheated by the “establishment” whatever the fuck that means. If he wins, folks that have a brain will look to either join the Dems or create a new party. Either way, Dems win, at least for a while.
They tried to do that recently and failed. The money people and campaign managers also waited until it got out of control before even trying. But Rubio and Cruz (especially Rubio) just aren’t good at playing Trump’s game. It’s not natural for them and they’re awkward when they try. Rubio likely hurt himself when he tried to play that game over the past 10 days or so. Super PAC money should have been spent to discredit Trump a long time ago.
Trump is popular b/c working class white people are realizing the GOP does not care about them or their interests. Trump is their way of telling the GOP to go fuck itself. It doesn’t matter how facile some of Trump’s solutions are b/c he’s the only one addressing their problems.
Something similar could happen to the democrats sooner than later. Imagine if the black community suddenly starts to revolt against establishment democrat candidates. That’s not a problem for them now (see Hillary routing Sanders in South Carolina) but I doubt the GOP ever thought evangelical conservatives would be flocking to a guy like Trump.
He is speaking for a large portion of the population that has been neglected for a very long time by both parties. If Bernie resonated with the black community he might be the front runner and people on the left would be asking the exact same questions you are about Trump. A lot of people are tired of being ignored and being asked to vote for candidates who have no desire in addressing their interests.
This is why the GOP was foolish in believing Trump would just go away. Very very dumb. Jeb was the establishment pick. The rest of the GOP field was sucking up to Shelden Adelson while Trump was building a movement. Inexcusable hubris from the GOP.
I think Trump is going to win outright. He’s going to smoke everyone today and that should be confirmed in a few hours. He actually benefits from losing Texas b/c that hurts Rubio more and keeps the field large. Rubio is going to stick around in vain and get smoked in FL where he’s polling very poorly. Kasish will stick around for OH at minimum. Pure speculation but I think Carson’s supporters will flock to Trump once he leaves. Trump is the nominee in all likelihood. It’s not a certainty but it would take a remarkable turnaround at this point.
As far as democrats, Trump is already making headway there. He’s already flipping some democrats to the republican party so they can vote for him in the primaries. I think Hillary mops up against Trump in a general but she won’t be able to fool around. The Clinton machine is already preparing for battle with Trump.
I agree with Corsos take word for word.
Trump came out and threw a few blows, assuming the position of power. Ever since Cruz and Rubio have been campaigning against him instead of for themselves. They aren’t playing their own game and will lose for it.
My old wrestling coach used to tell us the same thing. Wrestle your own match, not your opponents.
Have you ever taken any risks in your life, Bis? I’ve already read that comparison you’ve posted from some article.
What I want to know is if you know what it means to put your ass on the line in some real way. If not, then don’t take shots at the guy who has. I mean, its the interwebz and playing fantastically smart is cool, but let’s be real for a moment, shall we?
“The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited
restrictions…I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a
slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.”
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102.
“I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. It is an
unacceptable but accurate fact that the number of uninsured Americans
has risen to 42 million. Working out detailed plans will take time. But
the goal should be clear: Our people are our greatest asset. We must
take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare. “
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.206-208
“I’m “fine” with affirmative action.”
Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 Coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls , Oct 18, 2015
“I can’t take Israel’s side.”
“Donald Trump Thinks Kelo-Style Eminent Domain is ‘a wonderful thing”
“Donald Trump pledges to curb press freedom through libel laws”
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How is he in any way speaking for the neglected voter block? I agree that white working class voters have been neglected by the GOP (Dems as well) but don’t see anyway that he represents them. Yes he’s different from any other candidate but other than being an asshat what about his background makes people think he’s there guy? There’s better ways to vent frustrations to the GOP(like voting democrat…)
I don’t have any delusions that he’s the guy for the working man. I vote republican on the idea that when businesses and the business environment do better, so do the people who work for them.
On the quoted post, I was addressing his supposed financial stupidity, which I see as the willingness to take risk. He’s spearheaded some massive blunders and lost more than everybody on these forums will ever make, but he has also made himself and many others tons.
This may be what a lot of people, like small business owning conservatives,jj see and relate to. The balls and ability to put it on the line, take the risk and possibly reap a reward.
(Sorry about typos. These touch screens are a bitch with calloused fingers.)
I would agree although if people think Trump has been taking these risks with his own finances I think they are seriously misunderstanding how he finances his projects. Jewbacca summed it up pretty well but in short when a project goes south for him it’s been the contractors and investors that have suffered.
OK, so I’m not a Trump supporter so it’s like a white guy speaking for the black community.
It’s what Trump is saying that’s resonating with them. How many times have GOP candidates talked about slashing taxes on the rich and then cutting social security benefits and medicare? Working class white people might be ideologically opposed to welfare, but not to systems like SS and MC that they have to pay into with deductions from their hard earned paychecks. And then talk about less taxes on the rich? How is this supposed to resonate with working class white people? It resonates with rich people who don’t really give a shit about SS and MC b/c it doesn’t matter to them. Plenty of working or middle class white people have voted GOP b/c they don’t like lazy people living off the dole. That doesn’t mean they want to be the group that has to take it in the ass so rich people and lazy people can benefit from this system.
That’s just one example off the top of my head. Trump is also generally attacking the system that has provided politicians who have not done dick to address their interests. He’s the outsider who is claiming to be sick with these run of the mill politicians that are answering to their corporate backers and the GOP elite. Trump is shrewdly playing up the idea that everyone else he’s battling is financed by your typical GOP elites while he’s unencumbered and can thus address their interests without repercussion.
Trump is hitting on all the major topics. Working class whites want immigration controlled b/c they’re just getting by but are being asked to pay taxes so outsiders can have benefits. Rich republicans - well who cares. I like having cheap employees and I want someone cheap to landscape my property and clean my house. It contributes to their comfortable lives. Working class whites don’t have a need for cheap immigrants to clean their homes and reduce payroll expenses. Formerly middle class jobs are either unavailable to them or aren’t paying enough.
So yea, he is speaking for a neglected voter block. His solutions are facile, much like Bernie’s, but he’s the guy who is speaking the language of disillusioned people that think they’ve been left behind by everyone else. Hard to blame them really.
