Take a peak at what someone who has no political dog in the fight had to say. I know you have respect for our military and so do I. If you notice when under oath he said “should have and could have.” So, tell me what you think of this statement. Also still want to hear back from you regarding why you think the video story was concocted.
“Testifying in front of a House Oversight Committee hearing Thursday on Capitol Hill, retired Air Force Brigadier General Robert Lovell said the military should have and could have done more to help Americans who were killed in Benghazi on September 11, 2012. Lovell is the former deputy director for intelligence at Africa Command. His testimony today is the first testimony from a member of the military who was at Africa Command during the time of the Benghazi attack on the U.S consulate.”
I never said she didn’t have the right to speak about it. I asked why I should believe her word over someone else,like the SecDef. Is she an authority on the military? Is she an authority on foreign affairs? That sort of thing.
Never said this. Nice strawman.
Actually what I said was I didn’t know what her motive was.
Not as it related to Panetta and by extension McKeon.
What the heck is going on with all the “…Ummm, hey, look over there” misdirections about if our soldiers should be murdering women and children? My god I’d be so ashamed of myself to have to dodge that question just so I can continue defend that man.
People that I thought I had an idea about (not just here) have either unveiled who they really were all along, or completely sold themselves out as they got swept up in Trumpmania. It’s sad. Some of things people say, or are now refusing to outright condemn in order to not have to face the absolute incompatibility of this man, Trump, and the US as a morally good nation.
“The point is we should have tried.” I wholeheartedly and unequivocally agree. That; however, does not change the fact that there were no units, according to SecDef Panetta, that could of reach Benghazi in time to help. An assessment Buck McKeon (R) agrees with.
But that brings us back to this question: Why did Obama and company, lie about the attack being caused by a video?
The only logical answer (since you will not give me one) is that they had a motive. That motive was to not expose the Obama/Clinton foreign policy as a failure only 7 weeks away from the Presidential race.
If you have motive and opportunity you have the potential for a cover-up and that is exactly what I believe we have. And obviously many others do to. This is not my conspiracy theory this has been well discussed by those in the media, government and many other places.
I will put you squarely on the side of NOT believing this particular theory and taking the word of Obama, Hillary and of course Panetta.
That is unless you have anything more you’d like to add.
As you know a write in will help Hillary get elected. You saw what she did I Benghazi, you saw what she did with her emails and there are other scandals that date back to the 90’s. Google “whitewater”.
A really good read into the events and timeline as to why no help was sent.
"The ARB report provided a timeline of the attacks, an accounting adopted by the Obama administration. The ARB claims the initial assault on the U.S. Special Mission in Benghazi started between 9:45 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. local time and lasted until about midnight, when all but two Americans were evacuated to the CIA annex about a mile away. According to the ARB, at midnight the annex was attacked intermittently for an hour by gunfire and RPGs. The next phase of the attack started at about 5:15 a.m. local time, the ARB claims, describing the second wave of attacks as consisting of heavy mortar and RPG assaults.
However, witnesses on the ground, including CIA contractors who were inside the Annex, said there was no lull in the fighting at all. The “lull” claim is central to the Obama administration’s explanation for why no air support or special forces were deployed to Benghazi.
There is a difference between investigating a situation, finding proof of wrong doing, and then prosecuting the perpetrators. It is quite another thing to claim someone is a liar without the facts to back it up.
In your video did Judge Jeanine saying Panetta is a liar? That he’s in on some political conspiracy (I haven’t watched it)? If she did I hope she has facts to back that assertion up.
No, I’m not. People can comment as much as they want. You don’t just magically know if there’s an AC-130 gunship within striking distance of a location, though. You have to have facts to back such an assertion up.
Panetta was living the event as the Secretary of Defense. Judge Jeanine was preparing for her show on fox. His word > her word on this matter.
Present facts that he was lying and I will change my position.
I don’t disagree on your assessment that it was related to the re-election. Why they lied and the video is a different issue than the one I have been discussing for three days.
Fine, that was Obama and Clinton’s motive. Panetta had no reason to go along with this motive, in fact, perjuring himself in the process.
I don’t care about the motive as it relates to the video. I care about whether we could or could not have helped the 4 that died. There is no basis for the argument that we could have, but didn’t. None.
Where? The excerpt you copied in is Katie Pavlich’s words not Brigadier General Robert Lovell’s. I don’t see a direct quote saying we could have helped or anything along those lines. He says we should have tried, 100% agree.
I don’t care about the motive as it relates to the video. I care about whether we could or could not have helped the 4 that died. There is no basis for the argument that we could have, but didn’t. None.
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That is my very point they are inter related. With the reelection only 7 weeks away they did not want to look like the gang that couldn’t shoot straight by getting involved in a Libyan battle. Based on a failed Libyan policy. So…no help comes and they try to wash it away with the fake video story. Their Libyan policy looks good and Obama is reelected 7 weeks later.
