The Next President of the United States: II

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

I, for one, am certain that his acceptance had nothing to do with him having attended a prestigious preparatory school with a Yale alumnus and President of the United States for a father.[/quote]

I don’t think the math works out that he’d in college while 41 was POTUS.

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That just shows the privilege. It was all prearranged. Skull and Bones.
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right…

Those they secret societies just ruling the world. Jay-Z call you for illuminati membership yet?

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Oh ya, I’m with you. Ivy league is Ivy league and getting in is only the beginning anyway. [/quote]

To be fair, I’ve heard that once you get in they try their damned hardest to have you graduate with a great GPA and credentials and such.

Anything less would tarnish their reputation.[/quote]

Grade inflation is a real thing in the Ivy League.
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For many undergraduate degrees, I hear that this is very much the case, though I also hear that it is changing. Still, if you’re from the right family, you almost certainly have a lock on a gentleman’s C. In graduate or professional school, that kind of thing becomes much more rare. It’s probably safe to say that W. didn’t wear out his welcome in the library back in his school days. Not that many other presidents ever have.

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Oh ya, I’m with you. Ivy league is Ivy league and getting in is only the beginning anyway. [/quote]

To be fair, I’ve heard that once you get in they try their damned hardest to have you graduate with a great GPA and credentials and such.

Anything less would tarnish their reputation.[/quote]

Grade inflation is a real thing in the Ivy League.
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For many undergraduate degrees, I hear that this is very much the case, though I also hear that it is changing. Still, if you’re from the right family, you almost certainly have a lock on a gentleman’s C. In graduate or professional school, that kind of thing becomes much more rare. It’s probably safe to say that W. didn’t wear out his welcome in the library back in his school days. Not that many other presidents ever have.
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Yes, but remember this is also back in 64-68. Grade inflation wasn’t a serious thing until the 80s. Ivy League of the 1900-1960s is a different ballgame altogether as far as grades go. They took that shit much more seriously back then. Vietnam war years saw an uptick in grade average, but again they’ve climbed higher since the 80s.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Oh ya, I’m with you. Ivy league is Ivy league and getting in is only the beginning anyway. [/quote]

To be fair, I’ve heard that once you get in they try their damned hardest to have you graduate with a great GPA and credentials and such.

Anything less would tarnish their reputation.[/quote]

Grade inflation is a real thing in the Ivy League.
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For many undergraduate degrees, I hear that this is very much the case, though I also hear that it is changing. Still, if you’re from the right family, you almost certainly have a lock on a gentleman’s C. In graduate or professional school, that kind of thing becomes much more rare. It’s probably safe to say that W. didn’t wear out his welcome in the library back in his school days. Not that many other presidents ever have.
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Yes, but remember this is also back in 64-68. Grade inflation wasn’t a serious thing until the 80s. Ivy League of the 1900-1960s is a different ballgame altogether as far as grades go. They took that shit much more seriously back then. Vietnam war years saw an uptick in grade average, but again they’ve climbed higher since the 80s.[/quote]

Good point, though I have always assumed that gentleman’s – as opposed to universal – grade inflation goes back as far as grades do.

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Oh ya, I’m with you. Ivy league is Ivy league and getting in is only the beginning anyway. [/quote]

To be fair, I’ve heard that once you get in they try their damned hardest to have you graduate with a great GPA and credentials and such.

Anything less would tarnish their reputation.[/quote]

Grade inflation is a real thing in the Ivy League.
[/quote]

For many undergraduate degrees, I hear that this is very much the case, though I also hear that it is changing. Still, if you’re from the right family, you almost certainly have a lock on a gentleman’s C. In graduate or professional school, that kind of thing becomes much more rare. It’s probably safe to say that W. didn’t wear out his welcome in the library back in his school days. Not that many other presidents ever have.
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Yes, but remember this is also back in 64-68. Grade inflation wasn’t a serious thing until the 80s. Ivy League of the 1900-1960s is a different ballgame altogether as far as grades go. They took that shit much more seriously back then. Vietnam war years saw an uptick in grade average, but again they’ve climbed higher since the 80s.[/quote]

Good point, though I have always assumed that gentleman’s – as opposed to universal – grade inflation goes back as far as grades do.[/quote]

I’m in a graduate database management class and could use some of that gentleman’s inflation…

[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
And conservatives are the only ones who thinks he is smart. They need to rally behind his stupidity because he somehow represents them. It must be so embarrassing![/quote]

They “thinks” he is smart, do they? [/quote]

Still not as bad as W.

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

Still not as bad as W.
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Conditioned, you have been.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

Still not as bad as W.
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Conditioned, you have been. [/quote]

You have finally figured out your issue. Years of propaganda have brain-washed you!

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

Still not as bad as W.
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Conditioned, you have been. [/quote]

You have finally figured out your issue. Years of propaganda have brain-washed you!
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The peewee Herman defense? “I know you are but what am I?”

I wonder if there are Useless Idiots? If so, you should seek a leadership position.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

Still not as bad as W.
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Conditioned, you have been. [/quote]

You have finally figured out your issue. Years of propaganda have brain-washed you!
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The peewee Herman defense? “I know you are but what am I?”

I wonder if there are Useless Idiots? If so, you should seek a leadership position. [/quote]

The only difference here is that it’s true in your case.

Hillary is set to announce on Sunday, makes sense as it’s usually a slow day for news.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Hillary is set to announce on Sunday, makes sense as it’s usually a slow day for news. [/quote]

And the next President of the United States (here’s hoping) announces on Monday.

President Marco Rubio

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Hillary is set to announce on Sunday, makes sense as it’s usually a slow day for news. [/quote]

Yawn. More of the same.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’ve a sincere question: other than voting against the GOP nominee for whatever reasons related to antipathy to Republicans in general why will the Hillary voter cast his/her ballot for her?

What is it about her specifically that makes her admirable enough to receive votes? Is it just her celebrity status? Her years in the limelight?

What has she done?[/quote]

Let me throw some ideas out, Push:

  1. We’ve discussed this NUMEROUS times over the years. Often times, ones Vote is not necessarily “for” someone…but “against” what the alternative may represent.

And both the Right and Left do this.

As examples; the LGBT communities, the Latino Community and Black Americans may not “know” a lot about Hillary…but they sure know the position of many of the GOP candidates when it comes to them and their communities. Whether it is a “true” characterization or not; many voters can read and write.

Even Hillary herself is a prime example. Despite her governmental experience; she “represents” all that is wrong with this Country to the Right.

  1. She represents a Historical First for the Country; not only as the First Woman President; but having an Ex-President as the First Spouse. For many, Historical First have meaning.

  2. Like just about all Candidates…Hillary has a strong, passionate following that believes in her and what she represents (to THEM, not the Right). And she already has them “on the Ground” and running.

  3. Those who are passionate about President Obama and feel as though he was treated unfairly by the Right; to the point of doing things that would not, and had not been done to any other President (e.g. “You Lie!” at a SOU address; or letters written to a Hostile State you are negotiating with…the list goes on and on) will Vote for Hillary even if they are not as passionate about her.

Again; one doesn’t have to think that these things are true; or they can even think that it is “Tit-for-Tat” kind if stuff that President Bush had to face…but many Voters don’t feel that way.

The net result is that for many, Hillary’s resume of “what she has done” isn’t as important as a) what she represents TO THEM and b) their view of the alternative.

Mufasa

Just to add…

While I have no proof; it seems like voting “against” the alternative instead of “for” someone appears more prevalent today.

Mufasa

To your point Mufasa:

“At the end of the day, this evasive strategy won’t prevent me from casting my ballot for Hillary on Election Day – since a third Clinton term will save us from a fourth Bush term, or something even worse.”

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
but they sure know the position of many of the GOP candidates when it comes to them and their communities. [/quote]

Such as?

lol, I never understood this line of thought.

Rather than pick the best person for the job, we NEED to pick a woman, or a Black person, or a Something, because being POTUS is about being a Rock Star, and not about being the leader of the free world…

Riiighhhhttt.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Just to add…

While I have no proof; it seems like voting “against” the alternative instead of “for” someone appears more prevalent today.

Mufasa[/quote]

Ha ha…you left out the part where when she talks it reminds one of nails on a chalk board. Not to mention her goofy bug eyes when she gets passionate about a topic. I would make a bet that she won’t be winning the Presidency Mufasa. No matter how much the media pushes her the average non Hillary loving person is just not going to support her. And thankfully that’s the majority of the country.

Edit: Also, her numerous current and past scandals will most likely keep her out of the oval office.

“…Rather than pick the best person for the job…”

And this is a line of thinking, CB, that I have always have felt was “pie-in-the-sky”.

Other than age and citizenship; there is no magic “list” that qualifies one as being more qualified than the other for the job.

NO one…and I mean NO ONE can be prepared ,by some list on a resume, for what is the most difficult job in the World. Of our modern Presidents; I would place H.W. Bush as the most knowledgeable going in…but even HE made some fundamental mistakes.

To Zeb’s point.

  1. I don’t want Hillary to win. In fact, a) I had hoped she wouldn’t run and b) I wish we would elect someone President to the Right of Michelle Bachman…and that is not hyperbole. I wish it would happen.

  2. The GOP is being handed a “gift” by her running. If they can’t win in 2016; the GOP needs to do some real Soul Searching.

Mufasa