Quitting smoking is the hardest thing I’ve ever done though. And I think I am pretty strong willed and disciplined.
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I think that self assessment is accurate and yes, when it comes to kicking a habit that does not necessarily help you, in fact, it can stand in your way.
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Totally agree. Addiction seems to me to be similar to a form of multiple personality disorder, as I’m sure anyone who’s ever been addicted to something will agree. There is the strong willed personality who knows you should not partake of the drug, but then there is the other equally strong willed personality who wants to feel that goodness. The problem is that when you have two equally stubborn personalities vying for control, the deciding factor must come from outside, and in the case of drugs, the personality who wants to get high has a much more motivating reason to hold strong in the face of opposition, and which is why he usually wins.
The only way this changes is when you give the opposing personality an even stronger reason to avoid that high, which is usually discovered in the proverbial “moment of clarity” or “hitting one’s bottom” we often hear addicts talk about. There are literally not words to express how truly badly I wanted to quit both addictions, especially alcohol. For years I wanted nothing more than to be free. But it wasn’t going to happen until certain specific discoveries and events motivated the sober guy to become more staunch in his convictions than the drunk guy or the nicotine addicted guy.
[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
Personally I don’t care much for meth. If it didn’t exist then there would be no Walter White!
In saying that some of the faces on here are unreal. Has any T person ever actually touched this stuff??
Thats some fucked up repugnant bullshit right there! I will now daily thank the God I don’t believe in that my entire life has been a blissful Polyanna like existence where optimism rules, my only drugs are a double measure of Brandy per night and my only obsession is going to the gym.
Smoking and drug addiction I can understand but alcohol addiction has always made me go “wtf? That shit is vile and he just chugs it like its a coke”.
Now I like some beers and lagers, good labels are few and far between and I can stand vodka, (only with orange these days), sambuca tastes like shit but I can stomach some shots of it.
What I see on nights out and in general from seeing other people, students especially, is drinking till your eyeballs glaze over. My flatmate takes pride in drinking vodka straight from the bottle and finishing it in one sitting. A 1.5litre bottle mind you.
How do people stomach this shit long enough to become addicted to it?
I once had too much straight vodka and it burned my inner stomach lining, was sick for 15 hours due to the damage. Not touched vodka on its own since then and the very smell of it makes my head spin away from it.
How do you get addicted to alcohol outside of socialising?
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Smoking and drug addiction I can understand but alcohol addiction has always made me go “wtf? That shit is vile and he just chugs it like its a coke”.
Now I like some beers and lagers, good labels are few and far between and I can stand vodka, (only with orange these days), sambuca tastes like shit but I can stomach some shots of it.
What I see on nights out and in general from seeing other people, students especially, is drinking till your eyeballs glaze over. My flatmate takes pride in drinking vodka straight from the bottle and finishing it in one sitting. A 1.5litre bottle mind you.
How do people stomach this shit long enough to become addicted to it?
I once had too much straight vodka and it burned my inner stomach lining, was sick for 15 hours due to the damage. Not touched vodka on its own since then and the very smell of it makes my head spin away from it.
How do you get addicted to alcohol outside of socialising?[/quote]
I am not sure what the actual mechanism is. I believe it has something to do with genetics and something to do with certain associations that are made early on in life. In my experience, there definitely IS such a thing as an “addictive personality.” I certainly have one. I think it’s also possible to become addicted to certain substances with this personality, particularly highly addictive substances like nicotine or maybe opiates (I don’ seem to be susceptible or even inclined toward the latter, but was highly addicted to the former in a very short time.
Addiction never makes sense to those who have never become addicted to something, but anyone who has been or is can understand perfectly, perfectly how such a thing happens. The way I am now, I could never again become addicted to alcohol or cigarettes, even if I tried. However, years ago, with the way I was then, I could never have NOT become addicted to either once I’d tried them. Addiction is NOT logical. It makes NO sense. That’s what’s so damned scary about it. Consider yourself extremely blessed to not be a slave to some drug. I can say without the slightest sense of hyperbole the addiction is the absolute worst thing that can happen to a person.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Smoking and drug addiction I can understand but alcohol addiction has always made me go “wtf? That shit is vile and he just chugs it like its a coke”.
Now I like some beers and lagers, good labels are few and far between and I can stand vodka, (only with orange these days), sambuca tastes like shit but I can stomach some shots of it.
What I see on nights out and in general from seeing other people, students especially, is drinking till your eyeballs glaze over. My flatmate takes pride in drinking vodka straight from the bottle and finishing it in one sitting. A 1.5litre bottle mind you.
How do people stomach this shit long enough to become addicted to it?
I once had too much straight vodka and it burned my inner stomach lining, was sick for 15 hours due to the damage. Not touched vodka on its own since then and the very smell of it makes my head spin away from it.
How do you get addicted to alcohol outside of socialising?[/quote]
It is a mental crutch for most. It isn’t about taste. It is a relatively cheap and LEGAL way to forget your problems for s short while…which often can lead to even more problems…which will take even more drinking to forget.
I don’t drink alcohol much. It ruins my appetite for the day after which means if I drank regularly, I would look like one of the guys on here so worried about Simeon Panda being natural.
Alcohol being so socially accepted makes it a very easy “drug” to become addicted to.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I truly do not understand why anyone would touch meth. Like incomprehensible to me.
It’s sad to see, but if you’re that fucking stupid then you deserve it. [/quote]
I can’t comprehend why people drink and drive and smoke cigarettes but that’s just me. I agree with you though, they deserve it. [/quote]
Drinking and driving is actually a lot safer than drinking and walking (home or whatever)[/quote]
Safer for YOU, perhaps. Who knows whom you might kill driving home.
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For every mile walked drunk, turns out to be eight times more dangerous than the mile driven drunk. To put it simply, if you need to walk a mile from a party to your home, youâ??re eight times more likely to die doing that than if you jump behind the wheel and drive your car that same mile.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
In case there is any confusion, in both cases I found a METHOD and a CATALYST to facilitate the recovery. I would welcome PMs about this but we don’t get to do PMs anymore and all discussion of this fact is suppressed, so if this message does not disappear and anyone would like for me to elaborate, please let me know, I’ll be happy to do so. [/quote]
Has anyone been addicted to xanax/Benzo’s? Its the worst hell I have experienced. I stopped cold turkey and withdrawals almost freaking killed me. I stopped about a month and a half ago and still have intense cravings that never seem to go away.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I truly do not understand why anyone would touch meth. Like incomprehensible to me.
It’s sad to see, but if you’re that fucking stupid then you deserve it. [/quote]
I can’t comprehend why people drink and drive and smoke cigarettes but that’s just me. I agree with you though, they deserve it. [/quote]
Drinking and driving is actually a lot safer than drinking and walking (home or whatever)[/quote]
Safer for YOU, perhaps. Who knows whom you might kill driving home.
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For every mile walked drunk, turns out to be eight times more dangerous than the mile driven drunk. To put it simply, if you need to walk a mile from a party to your home, youâ??re eight times more likely to die doing that than if you jump behind the wheel and drive your car that same mile.
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That may be so, Raj. But assuming one still has some wits about them, do they make a choice based on their own survival, or whether or not to get behind the wheel and tempt the fate of another person’s life?
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I truly do not understand why anyone would touch meth. Like incomprehensible to me.
It’s sad to see, but if you’re that fucking stupid then you deserve it. [/quote]
I can’t comprehend why people drink and drive and smoke cigarettes but that’s just me. I agree with you though, they deserve it. [/quote]
Drinking and driving is actually a lot safer than drinking and walking (home or whatever)[/quote]
Safer for YOU, perhaps. Who knows whom you might kill driving home.
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For every mile walked drunk, turns out to be eight times more dangerous than the mile driven drunk. To put it simply, if you need to walk a mile from a party to your home, youâ??re eight times more likely to die doing that than if you jump behind the wheel and drive your car that same mile.
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I walked home so drunk off of my head that I do not remember walking 2 miles from the bar to my flat and passed out on my bed.
No injuries and by my own reckoning I just went off motor functions and memory, of which I have none for those 40 minutes.
Now this was through a city in England, I dont know what it would be like in the US, Russia etc but if a drunk white guy went through a gangbanger neighbourhood, yes he will get into trouble.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
In case there is any confusion, in both cases I found a METHOD and a CATALYST to facilitate the recovery. I would welcome PMs about this but we don’t get to do PMs anymore and all discussion of this fact is suppressed, so if this message does not disappear and anyone would like for me to elaborate, please let me know, I’ll be happy to do so. [/quote]
Please elaborate![/quote]
Sure, it would be my pleasure. First, read at least my posts on this thread:
My posts start at the last two on page 1.
Then read come back and read this (from a PM I sent to another interested person last year, whom I hope was helped by this program).
Go here and start reading:
Get the book, follow the instructions. They are very, very easy instructions. Using all of the elements of the program together is, I think, very important, though you may find that one element “does it” for you. For me, it was almost certainly the hypnotism CDs. I am very pleased to find that I appear to be quite susceptible to hypnosis, so once I added that final element, I immediately got what I was looking for. The best part is, once it “clicks,” you can start phasing out each factor until you are back to using none of it if you don’t want to.
I no longer use ANY of the supplements, the topiramate (I have an assload and if it’s difficult at all for you to secure you just let me know and I can send you some), or the hypnotism tapes.
Everything I’m saying won’t make sense to you just yet, but visit the website and read the book (you can read it in about 2 hours), and all of this will become clear.
It is a little bit expensive to get everything together all at once, but if you are drinking anything like I was, it will pay for itself in spades in just a few months.
Research everything you can and read the book and put the program to use for real and I really don’t think you will have to ask me any questions. But if you want to, you are more than welcome to at any time.
Good luck and may God bless you, brother. I really hope that this does something for you or someone you
As far as quitting smoking, Allan Carr’s The Easy Way to Quit Smoking is the very best book I’ve ever read or heard of on the subject. I had already quit when I read his book, but I was riveted, and the incredibly genius method which is just to read the book is itself a miracle of a thing to behold. It is really incredible.
As far as other addictions go, there are other methods that are also effective. It seems to be that what ties them all together is that all permanent, successful programs (that leave no residual desire for the drug or involve any recidivism when done in the right mindset), they all involve a complete reassignment of values, a total reprogramming of the brain, that results in a different brain, or at least a different process that the brain now uses when dealing with the substance that had previously held it in thrall.
Also do not discount the power of hypnotism. James Schmelter’s www.hypnotictapes.com LITERALLY have something for everything you could possibly think of, including such titles as Cure Fear of Asteroids. Weirdness aside, his CDs work and they can literally work overnight.
I hope this has been of help to some of you out there, whether or not you acknowledge it. I know what hell slavery to addiction is. There is nothing, nothing worse than real addiction, and I understand what some of you may silently be suffering, and I want to let you know, there IS a way out. May God bless you and give you strength.