This is a highly disturbing video… can’t believe I watched the whole thing. However when she got that car and the video’s setting changed halfway through to the news channel I was waiting for, “In a turn of most tragic events…” A bloody car crash and a disfigured individual whose sole purpose is found in beauty that is fleeting. It didn’t happen but i was waiting for the tragedy.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]DickBag wrote:
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
First of all, to you two guys who think she doesn’t seem too bad–um, that is her ‘pageant’ face. You can tell by her mannerisms, the careful way she keeps her back straight, the slow fade in smile. It is a rehearsed facade that is that has been taught to her as being necessary. You are not seeing the real her, you are seeing the her that her parents taught her to be.
That said, she might be a nice person in real life; it doesn’t really matter, because she shouldn’t be the focus here.
Someone should punch her clueless parents both in the face. They have severely messed her up. Imagine if she gets in a car wreck, a nice piece of glass cuts her from chin to forehead, and she has a scar for the rest of her life–her entire freaking reality exists around the face. She has been told her entire life that it’s the beauty that matters, the face, the looks, the glamour. If something in the cruel world takes that away, her entire identity as a human being is lost. Imagine thinking that you know and understand the world, and with one cold slap of reality, everything changes.
Not only that, but her parents do her school for her?? Seriously??? They have raised her to be shallow, uninformed about the real world, unprepared for the real world, unable to fend for herself in a world where no one actually cares one iota about her, and they see nothing wrong in what they have done?? !!
People disgust me.[/quote]
I don’t really think her parents are that bad. Yeh they seem a bit OTT with the looks and all but then again, in your own words, thats all for the camera. They are hyping her up probably to get her known. Thats how its done. to be honest, theres far worse parents out there.
And if something happens like you said “to take away her pretty face”, she will be unhappy, and then deal with it. just like me, my hand is fucked up and i cant train now maybe never again, tough shit, i took up fishing.
Like kids, when they are told santa doesn’t exist, they cry and grow up. Humans adapt. When we leave the parents house we shake off a few things here and there and develop into ourselves.
You were a bit extreme to be honest with the “her entire entity as a human being is lost.” relax the kaks would ya.
and as for that christmas tree every day, i dont agree with that but then again, she will probably grow out of needing presents every day.
shes only 15 for fecks sake, yeh shes arrogant, spoiled, vain and full of herself, but so are a few of us here on T-Nation. myself included.
but relax with the “doom”[/quote]
yea humans adapt … or throw themselves off a building
18 yr old kid climbed to the top of a 6 story building in my home town last week and jumped off because his gf broke up with him … it was his second and most successful attempt.
You make it seem that ALL people adapt when they don’t. I don’t think this girl is capable of adaptation … say she go her face cut up in a car accident her parents died in … ooops no more safety net. Now she feels the cold breath of reality do you honestly think a girl who CAN’T MAKE CEREAL FOR HERSELF would survive? I love your optimism, but come on man[/quote]
I’ve seen completely helpless people Change in the face of extreme pressure and become granite. I have also seen heroes crumble under the same pressure. People are funny. Sometimes the ones we expect the most from deliver the least at the most important times and the ones we expect the least from show up big and surprise everyone. The one thing I do know is that tough situations show someone true colors. Seeing as this girl has had not even a single one yet, I don’t think we know what she is capable of.
Back to the topic at hand, her parents need to be lynched at the town hall and this girl needs to me taken to a farm and made to work it till she graduates HS at least. And she aint that hot, her mouth is kinda messed up or sloppy or something. Seriously, WTF is wrong with her parents? They think they are doing her a favor, but they are setting her up so that she can never take care of a damn thing herself. What they think they gonna live forever? Dumb twats.
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and sometimes you see what you expect out of people … dickbag said it best and your point about us not knowing what she’s capable of is acceptable, however since she hasn’t experienced anything remotely close to challenging I’m going to say she hasn’t developed the fortitude necessary to overcome adversity … you’re giving her the benefit of the doubt but I won’t …
But we do agree that he parents are dumb twats (pronounced twOts not twAts rhyming with hats) … so we’ll always have that V[/quote]
I don’t think fortitude is only developed. I think it’s seeded into peoples DNA also. I really don’t think she even knows herslef at the given point in time. I basically look at what she is going through almost like a 15 year long drug binge. Who the fuck can say who she really is or how she would respond to some stressful real life situations. I mean she obviously lacks the KNOWLEGDE to do almost anything for herself. But then so did we all at one point. Knowledge can be gained. It’s the stuff inside of us which makes us be strong under pressure. I don’t think that has much to do with a persons upbringing.
For instance my upbringing was identical or as nearly so as you could get to both of my sisters. Yet thier fortitude is miniscule compared to mine. The life challenges I have dealt with and overcome with barley a shrug of the shoulders. Most people just shake thier head in disbelief, they come to counsel me over some situation and within a few minutes they realise they are the ones getting the counseling and that as usual I am doing just fine. My sisters however are both unstable at times. My one sister went through a stage in her life where she couldn’t find her pack of cigarettes in the morning and just broke down and started crying on the floor. She stayed there doing nothing for several hours.
I don’t know what makes people tick, but I know that she was raised in the same house at the same time (2 years younger) had the same schooling, etc… Our values are pretty much the same. So why does she crumble over a lost pack of smokes, but I can go through some really heavy shit and not even blink?
Anyways, I’m just rambling now so I’ll stop.
Kthxbye
V [/quote]
Maybe the difference between your sisters’ fortitude and your own is BECAUSE of the similar upbringing? Regardless, even if fortitude were engrained it would have to come from her parents who are brain dead morons … apple. tree.
PS, are you sisters hot?[/quote]
I am not at liberty to say such things, but others have said it. Actually my younger sister is too hot for her own damn good if you ask me. Bit of a man eater if you will, lots of drama.
Kthxbye
V[/quote]
PICS OR GTFO!!![/quote]
Ima GTFO lol
kthxbye
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]DickBag wrote:
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
First of all, to you two guys who think she doesn’t seem too bad–um, that is her ‘pageant’ face. You can tell by her mannerisms, the careful way she keeps her back straight, the slow fade in smile. It is a rehearsed facade that is that has been taught to her as being necessary. You are not seeing the real her, you are seeing the her that her parents taught her to be.
That said, she might be a nice person in real life; it doesn’t really matter, because she shouldn’t be the focus here.
Someone should punch her clueless parents both in the face. They have severely messed her up. Imagine if she gets in a car wreck, a nice piece of glass cuts her from chin to forehead, and she has a scar for the rest of her life–her entire freaking reality exists around the face. She has been told her entire life that it’s the beauty that matters, the face, the looks, the glamour. If something in the cruel world takes that away, her entire identity as a human being is lost. Imagine thinking that you know and understand the world, and with one cold slap of reality, everything changes.
Not only that, but her parents do her school for her?? Seriously??? They have raised her to be shallow, uninformed about the real world, unprepared for the real world, unable to fend for herself in a world where no one actually cares one iota about her, and they see nothing wrong in what they have done?? !!
People disgust me.[/quote]
I don’t really think her parents are that bad. Yeh they seem a bit OTT with the looks and all but then again, in your own words, thats all for the camera. They are hyping her up probably to get her known. Thats how its done. to be honest, theres far worse parents out there.
And if something happens like you said “to take away her pretty face”, she will be unhappy, and then deal with it. just like me, my hand is fucked up and i cant train now maybe never again, tough shit, i took up fishing.
Like kids, when they are told santa doesn’t exist, they cry and grow up. Humans adapt. When we leave the parents house we shake off a few things here and there and develop into ourselves.
You were a bit extreme to be honest with the “her entire entity as a human being is lost.” relax the kaks would ya.
and as for that christmas tree every day, i dont agree with that but then again, she will probably grow out of needing presents every day.
shes only 15 for fecks sake, yeh shes arrogant, spoiled, vain and full of herself, but so are a few of us here on T-Nation. myself included.
but relax with the “doom”[/quote]
yea humans adapt … or throw themselves off a building
18 yr old kid climbed to the top of a 6 story building in my home town last week and jumped off because his gf broke up with him … it was his second and most successful attempt.
You make it seem that ALL people adapt when they don’t. I don’t think this girl is capable of adaptation … say she go her face cut up in a car accident her parents died in … ooops no more safety net. Now she feels the cold breath of reality do you honestly think a girl who CAN’T MAKE CEREAL FOR HERSELF would survive? I love your optimism, but come on man[/quote]
I’ve seen completely helpless people Change in the face of extreme pressure and become granite. I have also seen heroes crumble under the same pressure. People are funny. Sometimes the ones we expect the most from deliver the least at the most important times and the ones we expect the least from show up big and surprise everyone. The one thing I do know is that tough situations show someone true colors. Seeing as this girl has had not even a single one yet, I don’t think we know what she is capable of.
Back to the topic at hand, her parents need to be lynched at the town hall and this girl needs to me taken to a farm and made to work it till she graduates HS at least. And she aint that hot, her mouth is kinda messed up or sloppy or something. Seriously, WTF is wrong with her parents? They think they are doing her a favor, but they are setting her up so that she can never take care of a damn thing herself. What they think they gonna live forever? Dumb twats.
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and sometimes you see what you expect out of people … dickbag said it best and your point about us not knowing what she’s capable of is acceptable, however since she hasn’t experienced anything remotely close to challenging I’m going to say she hasn’t developed the fortitude necessary to overcome adversity … you’re giving her the benefit of the doubt but I won’t …
But we do agree that he parents are dumb twats (pronounced twOts not twAts rhyming with hats) … so we’ll always have that V[/quote]
I don’t think fortitude is only developed. I think it’s seeded into peoples DNA also. I really don’t think she even knows herslef at the given point in time. I basically look at what she is going through almost like a 15 year long drug binge. Who the fuck can say who she really is or how she would respond to some stressful real life situations. I mean she obviously lacks the KNOWLEGDE to do almost anything for herself. But then so did we all at one point. Knowledge can be gained. It’s the stuff inside of us which makes us be strong under pressure. I don’t think that has much to do with a persons upbringing.
For instance my upbringing was identical or as nearly so as you could get to both of my sisters. Yet thier fortitude is miniscule compared to mine. The life challenges I have dealt with and overcome with barley a shrug of the shoulders. Most people just shake thier head in disbelief, they come to counsel me over some situation and within a few minutes they realise they are the ones getting the counseling and that as usual I am doing just fine. My sisters however are both unstable at times. My one sister went through a stage in her life where she couldn’t find her pack of cigarettes in the morning and just broke down and started crying on the floor. She stayed there doing nothing for several hours.
I don’t know what makes people tick, but I know that she was raised in the same house at the same time (2 years younger) had the same schooling, etc… Our values are pretty much the same. So why does she crumble over a lost pack of smokes, but I can go through some really heavy shit and not even blink?
Anyways, I’m just rambling now so I’ll stop.
Kthxbye
V [/quote]
Maybe the difference between your sisters’ fortitude and your own is BECAUSE of the similar upbringing? Regardless, even if fortitude were engrained it would have to come from her parents who are brain dead morons … apple. tree.
PS, are you sisters hot?[/quote]
I am not at liberty to say such things, but others have said it. Actually my younger sister is too hot for her own damn good if you ask me. Bit of a man eater if you will, lots of drama.
Kthxbye
V[/quote]
PICS OR GTFO!!![/quote]
Ima GTFO lol
kthxbye
V[/quote]
Damn … i was hoping for pics …
[quote]Enders Drift wrote:
I just want to point out that 16 is not legal in Samoa. Not that there’s really significant consequences if you break the law there but it is illegal. Its also illegal for a U.S. Citizen to sleep with a person under the age of 18 regardless of what country you are in.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1467.html
Just so you all know.[/quote]
They tell you what to do even when you are not in the US?
WTF !?!
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
First of all, to you two guys who think she doesn’t seem too bad–um, that is her ‘pageant’ face. You can tell by her mannerisms, the careful way she keeps her back straight, the slow fade in smile. It is a rehearsed facade that is that has been taught to her as being necessary. You are not seeing the real her, you are seeing the her that her parents taught her to be.
That said, she might be a nice person in real life; it doesn’t really matter, because she shouldn’t be the focus here.
Someone should punch her clueless parents both in the face. They have severely messed her up. Imagine if she gets in a car wreck, a nice piece of glass cuts her from chin to forehead, and she has a scar for the rest of her life–her entire freaking reality exists around the face. She has been told her entire life that it’s the beauty that matters, the face, the looks, the glamour. If something in the cruel world takes that away, her entire identity as a human being is lost. Imagine thinking that you know and understand the world, and with one cold slap of reality, everything changes.
Not only that, but her parents do her school for her?? Seriously??? They have raised her to be shallow, uninformed about the real world, unprepared for the real world, unable to fend for herself in a world where no one actually cares one iota about her, and they see nothing wrong in what they have done?? !!
People disgust me.[/quote]
First of all good points dirtbag.
but sqiggles
Chill out nutjob. It could be her “pageant face” for the camera but it seemed to be a genuine smile to me so what if she learned to smile often that is a good thing. I agree they aren’t the best parents ever but punch them in the face? WTF.
What the hell is with the carglass stuff?
I hate seeing stuff like that. Doomsday “predictions”. For example that young prodigy bodybuilder on here people said stuff like “too bad he’s going to die from steroids” etc.
What horrendus types of predictions to make. When people say shit like “too bad this person will crumble ,fail etc”. They are jealuose and are wishing that will happen or just saying it to find a fault weakness or some way they are "superior to the person they are jealouse of.
I am going to geuss that you are a girl who is not good looking at all and in no way a girly girl and that is why you are so jealouse and either A. are at least in some small way wishing something bad on this girl (at the least unconciously) or B. Wanted to find some imagine in your head of this girl being very unhappy and “falling” seeing her weakness which makes you feel better about yourself.
Here is an example that makes what she/he is doing far more clear. Notice how obviouse the bad intentions are, how false the compassion is and how there is no difference aside from shortening the same main point to make the intentions far more obviouse.
World champ skier" I love skiing it’s my love and lifes passion"
Angry Nutjob " Hmmm I bet that guys life will really suck if a tradgedy like him falling and being crippled happens."
I read what you wrote again and the adjectives and details like “nice peace of glass” “cruel world” “cold hard slap” make it worse and super obviously eveil negative and malicouse. Especially “nice peace of glass” used to describe it as it hurts someone I know it could have meanings like big or sharp but any adjective at all and the more detail makes it worse and more obviously twisted. But that choice of word no matter the meaning still is more revealing.
This is what I meant when I said your no more likely to be better or worse whether your rich spoiled or not. this person is an excellent example of what I was talking about an angry unhappy person who hates/ wishish bad on someone else.
You find those people disgusting you think you are above them? I don’t see them wishing pain on others to feel better. Take a look in the mirror.
Thats just a big overwhelming thing I see in this thread to bad she will have a terrible life and shit. What if she had a great life and loved every mnute of it and is never " taught a lesson" or get “What she deserves” would you guys feel good about that. Do you really feel everyone needs to go throught hardship or punishmeant or they are terrible is it some kind of needing punishment for original sin thing?
So people on this thread think about it would you wish this girl lived her entire life (with it not effecting others in a negative way) the way she is now just as happy is she is now or not?
Some people just never live in the real (as defined by user of word) world or get a real (as defined by user of word) job. Some people will just have a life of no pain no hardship and endless joy I say. Awesome! the more people like that the better. All of you drop the idea that the world is bad or ife is hard. If you think your life is excellent and easy it is and if you think the opposite that is also true.
Other people about contributing to society. I geuss she would stimulate the economy which helps people. She may become a proffesional model singer or actress or may not do any of that. But I always here that term thrown around what does it mean? I don’t think anybody cares about society it’s the people in the society that matter. But I honestly here that term a lot and don’t really get it. It doesn’t seem to have any real meaning to me. I do beleive just smiling often and being happy and good natured contibutes to people . It is infectiouse.
Is hard work or undergoing pain contributing to people? I don’t think so. Inless it is meant to contribute to jealouse angry sadistic people who I do’t feel need anything contributed to them.
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
lol I knew a reply like that was coming.
But seriously I did not single mom small rental house, in debt. At this girls age I had a very very different life than her in everyway. But hey I really don’t care at all always am happy with what I have although I do have a goal of EARNING eight million a year. I want to earn it myself I always thought it is a bad thing to grow up to pampered and rich especially for a man and I am glad not to be since I am a real happy grateful driven guy and have gotten to be the one to move my life in the direction I want it to be and become how I want to be. I am totally happy and have no regrets or dissatisfaction with my upbringing at all and am exremly happy with how I have turned out and the way my life is going and since that has been true I don’t have any animosity to people who are “more rich or more happy”
I honestly as a freshman I was an outcaste hated all “the rich kids” and kids who wore abercrombie cuz I was made fun of from some a holes like that. But honestly it’s just stupid all it is is money and clothes. And the majority of people I have met are good nice people rich or poor.
I think a dumb attitude is “whoever had a worse life had more pain is better morally, supirieor etc.”. And people who are unhappy with what they had or have don’t like people who have more. Once I became really happy and at peace with what I had I didn’t have any problem with rich kids and girls etc. really the majority of people if you are confident and happy are really friendly. It’s pretty rare you go up to a stranger rich or poor have a conversation with them and they are not really good natured and friendly.
I stand by what I said. A bit spoiled, but seems like a nice sweet happy good natured girl to me. Really besides being rich and getting many gifts what is so bad about this girl in all you guys’ opinions?
I don’t think it’s neccassarily jealousy but maybe media associations since it constantly shows rich popular girls as being bitchy in fiction and in reality show (sweet sixteen, there I agree those girls are straight up demons)[/quote]
“A bit spoiled”?? You’ve got to be kidding me! Christmas every day? I don’t blame the girl, I blame the sick fucked up parents!
This family is absolute trash! No values, no culture, just pure consumerism. Those parents should be in jail for what they are doing to this kid. She is going to be one messed up adult.
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
[quote]Squiggles wrote:
First of all, to you two guys who think she doesn’t seem too bad–um, that is her ‘pageant’ face. You can tell by her mannerisms, the careful way she keeps her back straight, the slow fade in smile. It is a rehearsed facade that is that has been taught to her as being necessary. You are not seeing the real her, you are seeing the her that her parents taught her to be.
That said, she might be a nice person in real life; it doesn’t really matter, because she shouldn’t be the focus here.
Someone should punch her clueless parents both in the face. They have severely messed her up. Imagine if she gets in a car wreck, a nice piece of glass cuts her from chin to forehead, and she has a scar for the rest of her life–her entire freaking reality exists around the face. She has been told her entire life that it’s the beauty that matters, the face, the looks, the glamour. If something in the cruel world takes that away, her entire identity as a human being is lost. Imagine thinking that you know and understand the world, and with one cold slap of reality, everything changes.
Not only that, but her parents do her school for her?? Seriously??? They have raised her to be shallow, uninformed about the real world, unprepared for the real world, unable to fend for herself in a world where no one actually cares one iota about her, and they see nothing wrong in what they have done?? !!
People disgust me.[/quote]
First of all good points dirtbag.
but sqiggles
Chill out nutjob. It could be her “pageant face” for the camera but it seemed to be a genuine smile to me so what if she learned to smile often that is a good thing. I agree they aren’t the best parents ever but punch them in the face? WTF.
What the hell is with the carglass stuff?
I hate seeing stuff like that. Doomsday “predictions”. For example that young prodigy bodybuilder on here people said stuff likeÃ? “too bad he’s going to die from steroids” etc.
What horrendus types of predictions to make. When people say shit like “too bad this person will crumble ,fail etc”. They are jealuose and are wishing that will happen or just saying it to find a fault weakness or some way they are "superior to the person they are jealouse of.
I am going to geuss that you are a girl who is not good looking at all and in no way a girly girl and that is why you are so jealouse and either A. are at least in some small way wishing something bad on this girl (at the least unconciously) or B. Wanted to find some imagine in your head of this girl being very unhappy and “falling” seeing her weakness which makes you feel better about yourself.
Here is an example that makes what she/he is doing far more clear. Notice how obviouse the bad intentions are, how false the compassion is and how there is no difference aside from shortening the same main point to make the intentions far more obviouse.
World champ skier" I love skiing it’s my love and lifes passion"
Angry Nutjob " Hmmm I bet that guys life will really suck if a tradgedy like him falling and being crippled happens."
I read what you wrote again and the adjectives and details like “nice peace of glass” “cruel world” “cold hard slap” make it worse and super obviously eveil negative and malicouse. Especially “nice peace of glass” used to describe it as it hurts someone I know it could have meanings like big or sharp but any adjective at all and the more detail makes it worse and more obviously twisted. But that choice of word no matter the meaning still is more revealing.
This is what I meant when I said your no more likely to be better or worse whether your rich spoiled or not. this person is an excellent example of what I was talking about an angry unhappy person who hates/ wishish bad on someone else.
You find those people disgusting you think you are above them? I don’t see them wishing pain on others to feel better. Take a look in the mirror.
Thats just a big overwhelming thing I see in this thread to bad she will have a terrible life and shit. What if she had a great life and loved every mnute of it and is never " taught a lesson" or get “What she deserves” would you guys feel good about that. Do you really feel everyone needs to go throught hardship or punishmeant or they are terrible is it some kind of needing punishment for original sin thing?
So people on this thread think about it would you wish this girl lived her entire life (with it not effecting others in a negative way) the way she is now just as happy is she is now or not?
Some people just never live in the real (as defined by user of word) world or get a real (as defined by user of word) job. Some people will just have a life of no pain no hardship and endless joy I say. Awesome! the more people like that the better. All of you drop the idea that the world is bad or ife is hard. If you think your life is excellent and easy it is and if you think the opposite that is also true.
Other people about contributing to society. I geuss she would stimulate the economy which helps people. She may become a proffesional model singer or actress or may not do any of that. But I always here that term thrown around what does it mean? I don’t think anybody cares about society it’s the people in the society that matter. But I honestly here that term a lot and don’t really get it. It doesn’t seem to have any real meaning to me. I do beleive just smiling often and being happy and good natured contibutes to people . It is infectiouse.
Is hard work or undergoing pain contributing to people? I don’t think so. Inless it is meant to contribute to jealouse angry sadistic people who I do’t feel need anything contributed to them.
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You don’t think hard work contributes to people? Or society?
I really am struggling with how anyone can rationally defend the type of existence or attitudes that this girl and her parents represent.
It is natural for most normal people to be disgusted by this video clip. Why? Because life is difficult. This is the first truth of Buddhism and a basic tenet of all major religions. Because it is difficult, it is wrong to flagrantly flaunt one’s wealth, success or good fortune, and worse yet, act as though one is entitled to it. It is morally vacant. Nobody should resent someone who has success and builds a good life for themselves through hard work, talent or perserverance. But it is fair to resent someone who takes it for granted.
i could take that car and run her over time after time.
Brahma bull. Hard work COULD contribute to society. Getting things done contributes to society if I love every second of it and feel it is easy as hell to create a way to say create a plant that was simple to go and provided all nutrients and calories needed n a day to drasticly reduce wold hunger does that contribute to society? Of course. The point is pain+ difficulty does not always= accomplishment or something good. I love lifting I don’t miss workouts I haven’t had junk food in 2 years I want to do it focus on the positive and find both fun and easy and see no downsides. Because that is how I focus my thoughts. The reality you see is based on how you view it easy is all relative.
Are these people perfect? No Are they evil? No. Of course I don’t completly love that type of existence it is no the pinnacle but yes I am absolutely against the resentment.
“It is natural for most normal people to be disgusted by this video clip. Why? Because life is difficult. This is the first truth of Buddhism and a basic tenet of all major religions. Because it is difficult, it is wrong to flagrantly flaunt one’s wealth, success or good fortune, and worse yet, act as though one is entitled to it. It is morally vacant”
See you are not getting it. LIFE IS DIFFICULT ONLY IF YOU BELEIVE IT IS first of all. Second of all there is no logic in those statements I am not sure if that is true of religions (I thought in buddishm it is desires that cause suffereing and overcomming THOUGHTS and feelings is the way to transcendance so the internal in that case is the cause of difficulty not the external.
Now assuming all else is you said is true. And life is hard for everyone and it’s bad and nasty. If you meet one person in the world who does not feel that way and life is easy for them. It is right to resent and hate them? WHAT?
Thats simply petty jealousy there is nothing morally supierior about that. In addition it is hate for something that challenges your beliefs.
Look at your logic it is absolute nonsense.
Life is difficult and bad
Your life is not difficult and bad
Therfore you are morally vagrant! And it is right to hate and resent you!
It is fairly simple these beliefs simply have no basis in logic. They are just pettiness,jealousy and anger (notice comment above me chakademus). Just because many people feel or act a certain way doesn’t make it right so it doesn’t matter if hate is what “normal” people should feel.
Read some of these comments (chakademus, eufuchs7) and really think about it is this really right? Common if nothing else at least be honest with at LEAST yourselfs This girl has more than you is happier than you and you hate her for it and there is no logic or morals about it.
Like I said earlier become happy and at peace with your life, what you have (although still strive for more if you like) and your childhood and the anger and resentment will go away. Again the family is DEFINETLY not perfect but like I said you should have a respnse of hahaha silly littly girl, not I want to cum in her hair, run her over with a truck etc.
It’s called Cognitive Dissonance your brain does not want to beleive any information that goes against your beliefs whether your beliefs are logical or not. Look at the facts and question your old beliefs. It may take a lot of effort (that is a better word than hard and one I like you should put a lot of effort into things but putting effort into something you want is easy fun and enjoyable)
Any let me know have any of your opinions changed about this girl and family at all. Not saying to love her but at least say thinking those people are stupid haha as a opposed to a shot of resentment or rage? I really would love that if someones attitude really has changed even a little.
Not sure what the show is called but I saw an ad for a reality series for child beauty pagents. To each his own but there are alot of these Alecia’s out there me thinks…sadly.
She will be ok in the future. Some dumb fuck(like daddy) will give her all she wants and more, and more, and more.
Maybe the guy that owns the car wash down the street(educated guess) from them has a sad excuse for a son that will kiss her ass for life.
I am fucking 16 you dumbasshole, stop making assumptions and calling me a pedo, when I can clearly be hitting that and that would be that, not a big deal. She is pretty hot.
And, to those who talk about the real world some do not even have to experience that. And clearly she will not, and, does not have to experience the real working world.
So shut the fuck up, and, just live with her having a better life than us.
For gods sake people today, always full of envy, but, never go out to get the paper themselves.
[quote]ALA wrote:
I am fucking 16 you dumbasshole, stop making assumptions and calling me a pedo, when I can clearly be hitting that and that would be that, not a big deal. She is pretty hot.
And, to those who talk about the real world some do not even have to experience that. And clearly she will not, and, does not have to experience the real working world.
So shut the fuck up, and, just live with her having a better life than us.
For gods sake people today, always full of envy, but, never go out to get the paper themselves.[/quote]
Fucking Canadian, Fucking 10er.
kthxbye
V
[quote]ALA wrote:
I am fucking 16 you dumbasshole, stop making assumptions and calling me a pedo, when I can clearly be hitting that and that would be that, not a big deal. She is pretty hot.
And, to those who talk about the real world some do not even have to experience that. And clearly she will not, and, does not have to experience the real working world.
So shut the fuck up, and, just live with her having a better life than us.
For gods sake people today, always full of envy, but, never go out to get the paper themselves.[/quote]
What do you know what a better life is? You’re 16 years old. You don’t know what life is yet, how can you know whether or not she is living better than anyone?
She’ll always be wanting something. She’ll never be satisfied. She’ll never be happy with what she has. She doesn’t know the joy of working for something better. She’s given everything, I hardly consider that better than knowing the satisfaction and accomplishment of completing a personal goal of achievement.
So why don’t you return to your mother teet and stifle the non-sense you just spit out of your mouth
Says the 16 year old with probably no job.
You are 16 and haven’t even begun to experience the “real world,” so stop acting like you have.
You are in Canada, no matter how much you write nice things about her she will never sleep with you.
We are on an internet forum and I can write anything I want.
I never personally attacked the girl, I just think she is creepy and annoying.
Maybe you’re jealous of not being your parents princess but I’m not.
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
Brahma bull. Hard work COULD contribute to society. Getting things done contributes to society if I love every second of it and feel it is easy as hell to create a way to say create a plant that was simple to go and provided all nutrients and calories needed n a day to drasticly reduce wold hunger does that contribute to society? Of course. The point is pain+ difficulty does not always= accomplishment or something good. I love lifting I don’t miss workouts I haven’t had junk food in 2 years I want to do it focus on the positive and find both fun and easy and see no downsides. Because that is how I focus my thoughts. The reality you see is based on how you view it easy is all relative.
Are these people perfect? No Are they evil? No. Of course I don’t completly love that type of existence it is no the pinnacle but yes I am absolutely against the resentment.
“It is natural for most normal people to be disgusted by this video clip. Why? Because life is difficult. This is the first truth of Buddhism and a basic tenet of all major religions. Because it is difficult, it is wrong to flagrantly flaunt one’s wealth, success or good fortune, and worse yet, act as though one is entitled to it. It is morally vacant”
See you are not getting it. LIFE IS DIFFICULT ONLY IF YOU BELEIVE IT IS first of all. Second of all there is no logic in those statements I am not sure if that is true of religions (I thought in buddishm it is desires that cause suffereing and overcomming THOUGHTS and feelings is the way to transcendance so the internal in that case is the cause of difficulty not the external.
Now assuming all else is you said is true. And life is hard for everyone and it’s bad and nasty. If you meet one person in the world who does not feel that way and life is easy for them. It is right to resent and hate them? WHAT?
Thats simply petty jealousy there is nothing morally supierior about that. In addition it is hate for something that challenges your beliefs.
Look at your logic it is absolute nonsense.
Life is difficult and bad
Your life is not difficult and bad
Therfore you are morally vagrant! And it is right to hate and resent you!
It is fairly simple these beliefs simply have no basis in logic. They are just pettiness,jealousy and anger (notice comment above me chakademus). Just because many people feel or act a certain way doesn’t make it right so it doesn’t matter if hate is what “normal” people should feel.
Read some of these comments (chakademus, eufuchs7) and really think about it is this really right? Common if nothing else at least be honest with at LEAST yourselfs This girl has more than you is happier than you and you hate her for it and there is no logic or morals about it.
Like I said earlier become happy and at peace with your life, what you have (although still strive for more if you like) and your childhood and the anger and resentment will go away. Again the family is DEFINETLY not perfect but like I said you should have a respnse of hahaha silly littly girl, not I want to cum in her hair, run her over with a truck etc.
It’s called Cognitive Dissonance your brain does not want to beleive any information that goes against your beliefs whether your beliefs are logical or not. Look at the facts and question your old beliefs. It may take a lot of effort (that is a better word than hard and one I like you should put a lot of effort into things but putting effort into something you want is easy fun and enjoyable)
Any let me know have any of your opinions changed about this girl and family at all. Not saying to love her but at least say thinking those people are stupid haha as a opposed to a shot of resentment or rage? I really would love that if someones attitude really has changed even a little.[/quote]
Just to clarify:
I never said we should resent or hate (your word, not mine) these people, and I wouldn’t condone any violence either just to be spiteful - but we should feel OK to resent their public behaviour and attitudes. They are wealthy, healthy (I assume) and have the leisure time and resources to pursue their own (petty and vacuous) interests like beauty pageants. Great. Nowhere in the clip though do you get any sense of their being grateful for their position in life, or the sense that the daughter feels she is anything less than entitled to her life, or that they spend an equal amount of their time and resources doing community service or trying to help those less fortunate. Just the contrary - you get the picture of a young woman who has been raised to believe looks (!) are more important than intelligence, that it’s reasonable to expect a gift every day and that cheerleading practice and posing in front of a mirror are “hard work”. Tell that to the guy who just lost his job in an auto plant or construction after years of dirty hands and strained backs.
You deny that life is difficult? It most certainly is for 99% of humanity. This is a great truth, one of the greatest truths. Buddhism teaches that once we truly see this truth, we transcend it. Once we truly know that life is difficult–once we truly understand and accept it–then life is no longer difficult. Because once it is accepted, the fact that life is difficult no longer matters. (By the way I am a Catholic, just saying)
So, I stick to my original thoughts - this family is a classic example of entitlement without accomplishment. To defend them is to defend all of the useless trash we have polluting our celebrity culture today - Paris Hilton, Kevin Federline, Kim Kardashian and dozens upon dozens of other useless tits who haven’t done anything in life to deserve the position and respect that they unfortunately get.
[quote]ALA wrote:
I am fucking 16 you dumbasshole, stop making assumptions and calling me a pedo, when I can clearly be hitting that and that would be that, not a big deal. She is pretty hot.
And, to those who talk about the real world some do not even have to experience that. And clearly she will not, and, does not have to experience the real working world.
So shut the fuck up, and, just live with her having a better life than us.
For gods sake people today, always full of envy, but, never go out to get the paper themselves.[/quote]
Lectures from 16 year olds are really annoying. Cause you know shit at 16.
I can say that because I was 16 once upon a time too.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
i think the vain-ness and narcissism of T-Nation usually comes from the fact that we spend alot of time in the gym or eating healthy to acheive some sort of goal. that girl is a 6 with rich parents that thinks she is a princess without having to WORK for anything. we at least have some sweat equity behind our vanity.[/quote]
how long have you been a lurker for?[/quote]
way too long, i think its been well over a year.
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unfortunately for you you’re now grouped with the oh-niners
and as much as I agree with your statement of a 6 w/ rich parents… I hate you
You should’ve waited a month before joining :)[/quote]
i didnt have much hope for the 10’ers being betters than the 09’ers. the hate is understood, its more of a hazing IMO. you make it through your first 100 posts without quitting the site and then its all just dick jokes and MMF’s for the next few thousand posts.
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
i think the vain-ness and narcissism of T-Nation usually comes from the fact that we spend alot of time in the gym or eating healthy to acheive some sort of goal. that girl is a 6 with rich parents that thinks she is a princess without having to WORK for anything. we at least have some sweat equity behind our vanity.[/quote]
how long have you been a lurker for?[/quote]
way too long, i think its been well over a year.
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unfortunately for you you’re now grouped with the oh-niners
and as much as I agree with your statement of a 6 w/ rich parents… I hate you
You should’ve waited a month before joining :)[/quote]
i didnt have much hope for the 10’ers being betters than the 09’ers. the hate is understood, its more of a hazing IMO. you make it through your first 100 posts without quitting the site and then its all just dick jokes and MMF’s for the next few thousand posts.
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hahaha … you HAVE been around a while
You’ll do just fine lol
[quote]BrahmaBull wrote:
[quote]ALA wrote:
I am fucking 16 you dumbasshole, stop making assumptions and calling me a pedo, when I can clearly be hitting that and that would be that, not a big deal. She is pretty hot.
And, to those who talk about the real world some do not even have to experience that. And clearly she will not, and, does not have to experience the real working world.
So shut the fuck up, and, just live with her having a better life than us.
For gods sake people today, always full of envy, but, never go out to get the paper themselves.[/quote]
Lectures from 16 year olds are really annoying. Cause you know shit at 16.
I can say that because I was 16 once upon a time too.
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I never gave a lecture, many of the posters here are being hypocritical, by namecalling a pedo, and, fail to see the basic morality behind this girl.
She was simply raised that way, simply because she lives with happiness with no hardwork, you think she is some sort of bitch.
Wake the fuck up.