[quote]GCF wrote:
pushharder wrote:
GCF wrote:
rainjack wrote:
The term “feminist” has been co-opted by the left. You can’t be a feminist and be conservative. It goes against the rules of Gloria Steinem, HG Brown.
They are treating Palin in much the same way that Clarence Thomas was treated, and to a large extent still is.
You can’t be conservative and out perform the liberal standard whether you are a white, female conservative, or a black, male conservative.
The militant feminists (feminazis, to steal from Rush) absolutely hate everything Palin stands for.
Just look for some of Buckeye girls posts in the political forum. I’m not saying she is a militant feminist, but she echos the opinion of most liberal feminists.
So yeah, hedo is way more right than wrong on this.
So hedo is right: feminists villify women and their families for choosing to have babies. Wow. Talking about making up facts to support your view. I really find it hard to believe you ACTUALLY belive that. Maybe I give you too much credit.
I guess I have never met a feminist then. Although I took a political science paper in University (called Gender in Politics) taken by two well known feminist writers. I had a great time in that paper and got on well with both lecturers and had some great debates with them. I wrote an essay that got a very high mark despite me completely disagreeing with them.
The class had about 60 students in it. I was one of 4 males. I was hated by many of the students. There were a lot of angry lesbians in there. The male bashing was intense sometimes but not once did I hear negative comments against women having children and husbands.
Both of the lecturers had husbands and children.
So I take it you are saying these two individuals are the norm, not an exception?
Yes, certainly in my experience. These two plus were just an exaample but the rest of that specific class (in fact feminists in all classes I have taken), plus the writings I read in that class and a couple of others I can honestly say I have never ever heard/read a feminist mock/villify a woman for having children or husbands.
Have the majority of feminists you have dealt with/read ever villified women and their families for having children?[/quote]
The so called exception to the rule can be staring them in the face and they’d never know it. They are very quick fingered with the lefty liberal femi-nazi stamp. If they ever paid attention instead of plugging their ears and crying femi-nazi and worrying over the world contracting vagina dentata and eating them whole, they’d know that some of us do not lean to the left nearly as far as would make it convenient for them.
I have posted on this board, whole threads picking apart leftist positions, my belief system falls in line with Libertarians more than anything else. Liberal? Not a chance. Just ask my two brothers, staunch supporters of Obama…how liberal I am when they call and rail at me for having the sheer audacity, as a woman of an under-privelaged background, to be unwilling to cast a vote in his direction. It makes for a wearisome fight to be told that I achieved what I have in life, not because of the choices I’ve made in the face of adversity, or my intelligence, but because I am ‘white and pretty’. Makes the meat at the family barbecue taste like a combination of shit and guilt.
The abortion issue is discussed on this board every other week. Same opinions, same hamster wheel…same stalemate. I am still pro-choice. I have never villified Sarah Palin, or women with families and children. Being pro-choice does not make me anti-family or children. It doesn’t make me a frothy mouthed combat boot wearing liberal either. I don’t want Roe V Wade overturned, but I don’t want to slide headlong down the baseline of impending socialism either.
I can’t bat for either team without wanting to tear the number off my back and kick dirt at the umpires. To the left, I don’t want phony promises of reform based on entitlement or undue leniency regarding foreign policy and immigration disguised as diplomacy. To the right, I don’t want your religious sanctimony vomited all over my life or war mongering based on profit. I won’t vote for greed. I won’t vote for entitlement. Both sides are well and truly pissing in the face of this country. Both claiming rights to the true meaning of patriotism while deviating so far from the well worn but forgotten path it makes me sick.
I want a real candidate. Not a batch of blowhards, and not a bunch of panderers. Too much to ask, but then again…like I said, I like having choices. Right, now I have to go make dinner for my family and prepare for work tomorrow, then send my donation to planned parenthood and make sure my date to go shooting at Montana Hawk tomorrow is still on. Happy pigeonholing!
