So much good stuff here. Total agreement! All the way. Holy shit, some of the research from developing countries is hard to read it’s so bad. Not to mention the rampant plagiarism and all the rest…
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So it is the ACA that has caused BK’s to skyrocket and for healthcare to be the number 1 cause for bankruptcies.
Research can mean nothing if it doesn’t translate into a marketable therapy. The FDA has a revolving door with Big Pharma and it’s(the FDA) purpose is to protect markets for Big Pharma. Stem cell therapy ought to be standard of care but it is not because Big Pharma can make more money selling their garbage pharmaceutical cocktails rather than people having the choice to have stem cell treatment… It has been proven a safe therapy with no side effects already in other countries. Why do we not have that option here?
One of the leaders in stem cell therapy has plenty of peer reviewed studies and it isn’t from the U.S.
And what are these studies translating to? Standard of care and a choice the public has? Is this therapy readily available in the U.S.? And why isn’t it a standard of care in this country? Do they need to drag their knuckles and do more studies to slow down the application of this therapy so Big Pharma can make more money off the misery of the public. Or are they waiting until the laws change so Big Pharma can figure out a better way to profit from them?
So because he is an accountant it makes the articles wrong? Medical costs are not the number 1 reason for BK in this country?
So it isn’t the number 1 reason for BK protection from creditors is?
So why doesn’t the rest of the world come to it’s senses and join are superior system?
You said:
I said:
You said:
So I did and guess what I found:
I found out that the United States does more Stem Cell research then the rest of the entire world combined.
Don’t know, don’t care at this point.
People come here for care. I can choose between 4 providers where I work. People in Finland have to use single payer and they have to pay the higher taxes. Talk about choice!
What therapy?
That Big Pharma, just like the evil Big Banks and the evil Big “plain corporation.” We definitely need Big government to step in.
Huh?
They will when they run out of money.
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Say who, you?
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LOL!!!
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I believe ActivitiesGuy already covered the problems with a lot of research done and published outside the US. But I’ll tell you right now, that publications list you linked isn’t “plenty”. It isn’t even a drop in the bucket, and they aren’t all or even most clinical trial results. In fact, there is only 1 in that entire list that could even kinda sorta, almost, loosely, maybe, be considered a clinical trial and it is the first one–with a sample size of 13. Let’s also leave out the fact that a 13 month safety outcome doesn’t even come a lightyear’s distance to being a long-term health and safety evaluation. Their sample size is roughly 1000-10,000 fold too fucking small to be a full blown clinical study. Let’s be generous and say due to the novel nature of these treatments that’s a bit too high. Fine. You still need on the order of 500+ in your sample pool to even come close to developing the kind of sample pool you need for moving things forward.
ActivitiesGuy is an epidemiologist and statistician. He can tell you I’m being generous to you.
Fuck, most of those publications they have on the page are fucking in vitro studies. That’s basic research. That’s fucking lightyears away from anything resembling something clinically useful.
I mean for fuck’s sake, they listed 17 pre-clinical and largely basic in vitro research studies and you’re hailing it as the world’s leading edge. Here’s the cold numbers: 1 “clinical study” from them / 3000 US studies = 0.00033% of the research we do in the US, being quite generous to them because the reality is we do far more, far better, far more often.
Oh, but the numbers are far worse in reality. 17 publications from them / 120,130 study results in pubmed using the same search terms. Again, the vast, vast uncountable majority done in the USA.
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As a layperson with a fairly keen nose for bullshit, I’d be REALLY curious to see how many citations are credited to stem cell research in the US vs. research done outside the US.
I’m not a betting man, but if I was, I would not wager that it strengthens any of Zep’s premises.
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In regards to stem cells maybe my question was too broad. Research only ultimately matters if those therapy’s are made readily available to the public. So the number of trials means nil if it isn’t producing real tangible results for the public at large. Having more trials ultimately doesn’t matter if that is all that they are doing. In Panama you can readily get stem call therapy by one of the most experienced and reputable Stem Cell Clinic’s in the world. With superior results and no side effects why would anyone choose to take a garbage pharmaceutical whose intention is to treat symptoms not the root cause of the disease. And happens to be fraught with terrible side effects.
So even though it shows superior results and no side effects for some diseases it shouldn’t be offered as Standard of care, says you?
Meanwhile people are getting better with the treatments while the U.S. drags it’s feet. If the U.S.has such GREAT clinical trials why do quite a few people die from these approved drugs that apparently gone through the 3 vigorous stages? How many people died getting stem cell therapy in Panama at The Stem Cell Institute?
The ostensible purpose of the FDA is to protect the public but in reality they protect markets for Big Pharma.
citations are actually a very strong measure of research importance and value. And yes, your bet would win some money.
Thought so, you goalpost moving, question dodging, Alinskyite conspiracy theory coward. Back up YOUR claims or shut the fuck up. Do some work for once.
The amount of work it would take for you to even halfway understand the fundamentals of this topic in order to HAVE any discussion resembling intelligent on this would cost thousands of dollars in tuition and several years of your life.
(quietly munching popcorn)
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You’ve made this claim several times.
Citation, please.
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