…and future generations of workers are that much worse off and starting out of the gate handicapped
The regressives think income inequality is bad now, wait until these middle class and low income kids don’t have ways to get job experience early while the kids from wealthier families with connections can get experience…
Places like McDonald’s and other fast food develop a lot of their leaders and executives from within the ranks - now they have less of a pool of inside talent to pull from and will look to outsiders to fill those executive roles.
Good job at pricing future lower income kids out of experience and promising work and furthering whatever wage gap you thought this was going to fix - dumbshits.
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That is freaking awesome!
Well played sir.
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Cool shirt.
I love Mumford & Sons!
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Have you ever experienced a single payer health system? My sugestion is you experience one before you say you want one. I have been treated medically in countries with a single payer system. It was the worst care ever. Imagine going to the ER and nobody’s home. Lights are out, the whole place is dark, etc. That happened to me. Then when eventually I got treated, well let’s just say I eventually needed surgery because the injury was not properly treated.
You have this list of freebies you want with no clue on the reality of what you are asking for.
Comparing the U.S. to countries that have a twentieth of the population, and a fraction of participation when it comes to contributing the the rest of the world. If they didn’t have a U.S. at their beckoned call they would actually need a military.
Basically you have 2 types of counties in the world, contributers and dependents. The two cannot be alike. The U.S. is a contributor, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Luxembourg are all dependants.
You can do alot more for yourself as a country when somebody else takes up the burdon of protecting you both militarily and economically.
The Sander’s vision could never work here, we are the largest contributor in the world. His vision could only have traction in dependant nations. You turn us from contributor to dependant who do you think is going to pick up the slack? China? Russia? Saudi Arabia?
But muh free stuffff…
While I don’t have “blind faith” in government you have it for the mythical “free market”.
So you found 1 country on the face of the earth that spends more per capita than the U.S. and you don’t even know what that covers. And besides that point the fact you hang your argument on that finding is laughable.
Here is a study on the subject when the $10.50 minimum wage was bandied about.
And remember the $15.00 minimum wage is to happen in increments so if something like negative unintended consequences happen, then something could be done.
And again here is a study done when the $10.50 minimum wage was being talked about. So the PERI Institute did a study to find out what were the effects particularly the fast food industry.
And the $12.00(Clinton) and $15.00(Sanders) wage that each candidate is backing happen in increments. So it could be stopped if there were unintended negative consequences.
Jesus Christ, I know reading is difficult, but a) it’s 2 countries in the OECD, b) that was only 1 small part of my expansive argument of which you refuted exactly zero, and c) you said America has the higher cost of healthcare. You were wrong, period.
Right, because people invested in a decision with significant ramifications always admit, in hindsight with their political careers hanging in the balance, that their policy was poor and fight to overturn it. Lol, right…
Try and understand that doubling the minimum wage has never been done and that small businesses, which make up about 98% of the employers in the United States will be drastically affected by a doubling of the minimum wage.
Sounds like typical University thought devoid of real world experience. We know, for a fact that the minimum increase to $15 in Seatle directly resulted in a reduction in employment.
What do you think will happen if the minimum is doubled in rural Alabama?
I don’t see where wage compression is taken into consideration either.
Do you notice a trend? The higher the % the minimum wage goes up the higher the increased cost to sales ratio will be. They estimate $7.25-$10.25 is a 2.7% increase. Since $7.25 to $15 is more than a 100% increase we can say we’re looking at somewhere between a 5% and 6% increase, which will have, well, at least double the impact the paper projects.
Plus higher wages = more payroll taxes and other costs for the employers ( I don’t see that as a consideration).
Do you know what else is ignored? Profit margin. Oh, they can just absorb the cost increase, lol. Typical college professors (or assistant professors in this case) that have never once worked outside of academia.
That’s as far as I got. I don’t really care at this point. I’m right and I know I’m right. Artificially forced increases to any cost eliminates jobs. That is a sad fact proven over and over again.
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No I have never experienced it like the people from other countries where I worked, tell me how expensive it is in the states. Where were you treated? Do people in other countries have to file bankruptcy because of their cost of healthcare like the public in the U.S.?
And I have news for you every other industrialized country in the world has a different population and they all have some form of single-payer system. Does the population die because of their long lines? Or do they just eventually get the procedure and file bankruptcy later? So I’m to believe that every other industrialized country is wrong and we are right. The so-called free market does not work in healthcare. The system is about health not profits first. It is fundamentally backwards. The U.S. is far behind in it’s research on stem cell therapy. Because Big Pharma can’t patent stem cells Big Pharma has their lackeys in the FDA do what they can to slow down research so they can profit with their garbage pharmaceuticals. Instead people with diseases that are treated successfully with stem cells have to suffer or go out of the country to get this type of therapy. So that Big Pharma can make more profit off of the publics misery. Wow! That is really something to be proud of. And most of what you talk about the U.S. being a contributor is not welcome by the populations of other countries usually only by the governments and big business. A world of difference. And it is not nearly as simple as you put it. The U.S. gets things for being there, like it posts bases and sweetheart deals with foreign corporations. Sanders vision has certainly gained traction with millions of Americans. You can see that by his rallies. And your contribution theme has been scathingly criticized by libertarians along with socialists. Ron Paul made staying out of other countries business a central theme of his plank.
I prefer freedom over coercion.
Usmc, I enjoy reading your detailed rebuttals to Zeps “propoganda” talking points.
While its not really a fair argument, I’m not sure how you have the time, and it clearly falls on deaf ears (in regards to Zep), there are lurkers in the conversation and I appreciate your thorough responses.
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All of them just get 50+% of their income forcibly taken by the government…
Not even 1% of Americans file for bankruptcy annually. Solid appeal to emotion, though.
Veterans have died in the United States waiting for government care via the VA.
It’s already been shown that the U.S. produces more research than anyone else by a country mile.
Ding ding ding.
I appreciate it and I do it for other posters (lurkers) that might read and believe his nonsense. The nature of the work I do allows me a significant amount of downtime during parts of the year and 50+ hours at other times. I do what I can to stay engaged, lol…
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And hundreds of thousands more go untreated yearly.
I went to the VA La Jolla once for broken ribs, after eight hours I gave up went down the street to Scripps, 45mins, and $650.00 later I was done. I would gladly pay that again and will never use the VA’s emergency services again.
The V.A. is the example, I use when arguing socialized health care.
If we cannot provide proper health care for our Veterans, why would anyone think that we can do so for the entire US population?
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By the way, you’ve done an epic job here. While, contrary to popular belief, most of the time one cannot totally win many of these threads, you absolutely dominated this one.
So if winning on the Internet matters to you, you have a feather in your cap.
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