The Israel / Hamas Conflict

Just curious: In Islam, what does a woman need to do to be given 72 virgin men in paradise?
Surely, someone has asked this before.

Are virgin men even what women are looking for?

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I can’t say that I have any idea what women are looking for at all.
I was just pointing out that Muslim women seem to be getting the “short” end of the stick at their paradise.

I’ve heard from an Arab friend that short sticks are more desirable in the ME (depending on country). From what I recall, intellect / sophistication are seen to be inversely correlated to the size of the “stick”.

Considering a woman’s “stick” that could account why they suppress women in numerous facets of life.

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Married women get their husbands. Unmarried women get a husband.

I am obviously making an inaccurate assumption.

I was under the impression that all Muslim men, single and married, are qualified to receive 72 virgins for… some… martyrdom act, or whatnot.

If single Muslim men only qualify, I can see your statement and consider it fair treatment of women.

…but if a married Muslim is given 72 virgins in their paradise, wouldn’t his earthly wife just be the only non-virgin of 73 women? That just didn’t seem like a very satisfying result for the Muslim wife in paradise.

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Doesn’t specify the gender of the 72 virgins IIRC.

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No. Pre Selection Bias is a strong factor for women.

It’s why single dudes will wear fake wedding rings when they go out. Women like men that other women like.

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Classic scene.

As I grew from my teens thru my 20’s and into my 30’s, it only seemed reasonable that a woman would grow to like her friend’s boyfriend/husband. I thought it was just the experience of being around that man and enjoying the familiarity. .

But come my late 30’s and being single, I had a young friend that the girls flocked over. (Definitely not me.) He could dance as good as I had seen. He had a girl who wanted him badly. He had a saying that he would say just before going into a club: “You can have the best. I’ll take the rest.” One night that girl who wanted him so bad, wanted to go to the clubs, but none of her friends were available that night. Maybe she thought my friend would show up. I met her at the club and hung out with her. She was a very pretty girl. I have never got hit on by as many girls as when I was standing/talking with her. I realized that most girls decide the desirability of a man based on other women’s tastes in men. I suppose the women thought that if that girl found me desirable, they should too.

When I reflected on that event, I totally lost all respect for women’s rating of dating desirability. Most don’t seem to have an independent thought on their own (about men worth getting to know better.)

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It’s Islam, fair is relative.

or maybe, irrelevant.

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Yes, received. I don’t think my word choice has anything to do with his skin color. When people look at me, they usually see European. I don’t think you’ve said a correct thing about me in this whole thread, but I might be forgetting something.

I don’t even think my word choice would be different if it was a non Muslim. Nobody in Jerusalem was killed. The Muslim armies surrounded it and terms of surrender were negotiated for several months if I recall correctly. They negotiated a lower tax rate than what Muslims paid. The churches were preserved. The last term of surrender was that they would only give the keys to the city of Jerusalem to Umar ibn al Khattab. If there was ever an army involved in “liberating” a land in all of human history, this was probably it.

Christians and Jews were tried according to Christian and Jewish law. Far away from the imagery of convert or die provided by Hollywood.

Yes, received, literally, physically and metaphorically.

Are you sure? Muslims have been unified before. Are you saying Muslims will never be unified again?

Thank you for taking a stand against Nazi like propaganda. I hope your family is doing well.

I didn’t bring up skin color. Why are you?

And that is somehow different from conquering? They took it by force or threat of force. Conquering.

I think the Spanish would disagree, but the Muslims lost there so… And you don’t liberate a land by taking it over, that’s called conquering.

They were second class citizens. You know this. The Muslims also practiced slavery so liberate is kind of a misnomer.

And you can post all of the videos you want; I went to college, I read books, I studied Arabic, and my people’s land has mosques and other physical remnants of Muslim occupation as well the influence it had on our language. Our word for donkey comes from the Arabic word sheik. That either tells you how much we esteem donkeys or how little we think of sheiks. I’m the worst person for you argue with as I have this strange thing known as knowledge. I don’t know if you are an Arab, I doubt it, but if you are, your ancestors learned from mine. The Muslim Golden Age was founded on the knowledge they “liberated” from the ancient Greeks.

If the various ethnic and racial groups can accept Arab supremacy, maybe. But if the Turks want to stay Turkish, the Persians Persian, the Egyptians Egyptian, the Berbers Berbers, etc., then no.

Thank you. I hope yours is too.

Thank you. I hope your family is doing well.

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