[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Magarhe wrote:
Bureaucratic waste isn’t the problem: unproductive USA with economy based on consuming junk produced in other countries whilst running up massive debt, hiding taxes in inflation, and who knows how many “favours for the boys” behind the scenes where the rich have been running riot (trading up oil, dodgy sub prime loans, other bullshit) … creating wars so arms dealing mates get rich, man, how much bullshit is going on, I hope this guy can fix it because I look at America and see massive injustice and people with wool pulled over their eyes, dancing to rhetoric, all the intention of the founding fathers thrown out the window and the exact things they wanted to stop happening, happening rampantly. what the frack?
good luck Obama you must have the shitiest job in the world
Yeah, this is going to be business as usual. Government cannot fix anything. They can only make things worse. But maybe they can start an other war so we can send off all of our brothers and sisters to die so that they don’t have to suffer here with everyone else. That’s one way to fix the unemployment statistics.[/quote]
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Racism is when you see a black guy, performing better than a white guy and then put his effort down.
For example: one might see a black president deliver a speech that could very well be the speech of the century. Coming from 8 years of misunderinterpretations and then have the balls to say: “I’ve heard better speeches from vacuum cleaner salesmen.”
That my friends, is racism.[/quote]
No, Racist is having a hate whitey prayer at the inaguration. I was offended. Here we are, elected a black prez, and the guy drives a wedge in there when we are supposed to be coming together “When white will embrace what is right”
So he’s really saying no, “You’re still all evil fucks because you are white”.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Racism is when you see a black guy, performing better than a white guy and then put his effort down.
For example: one might see a black president deliver a speech that could very well be the speech of the century. Coming from 8 years of misunderinterpretations and then have the balls to say: “I’ve heard better speeches from vacuum cleaner salesmen.”
That my friends, is racism.
No, Racist is having a hate whitey prayer at the inaguration. I was offended. Here we are, elected a black prez, and the guy drives a wedge in there when we are supposed to be coming together “When white will embrace what is right”
So he’s really saying no, “You’re still all evil fucks because you are white”.
Did anyone hear that part? It was rediculous.
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You’re joking, right? He went down a list from black to yellow to brown and just rhymed words…and you actually took offense?
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Racism is when you see a black guy, performing better than a white guy and then put his effort down.
For example: one might see a black president deliver a speech that could very well be the speech of the century. Coming from 8 years of misunderinterpretations and then have the balls to say: “I’ve heard better speeches from vacuum cleaner salesmen.”
That my friends, is racism.
No, Racist is having a hate whitey prayer at the inaguration. I was offended. Here we are, elected a black prez, and the guy drives a wedge in there when we are supposed to be coming together “When white will embrace what is right”
So he’s really saying no, “You’re still all evil fucks because you are white”.
Did anyone hear that part? It was rediculous.
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Things like this will continue to be said until white guilt no longer works on whites. This entire thread started out in the same vein. We have conservatives falling all over themselves to proclaim that they would vote for a conservative black like Sowell or Williams, they just didn’t vote for Obama because of his policies, as if such a thing needs to be said.
It is now racist for whites to point out when racist things are said against them, for crying out loud. When whites learn to stick up for themselves, predatory white-guilting by nonwhites (and liberal whites looking to leverage themselves over other whites as “super not racist”) will diminish.
Obama’s pastor has libeled the whites in this country and globally FROM THE PULPIT numerous times, but it is racist for whites to object.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Racism is when you see a black guy, performing better than a white guy and then put his effort down.
For example: one might see a black president deliver a speech that could very well be the speech of the century. Coming from 8 years of misunderinterpretations and then have the balls to say: “I’ve heard better speeches from vacuum cleaner salesmen.”
That my friends, is racism.
No, Racist is having a hate whitey prayer at the inaguration. I was offended. Here we are, elected a black prez, and the guy drives a wedge in there when we are supposed to be coming together “When white will embrace what is right”
So he’s really saying no, “You’re still all evil fucks because you are white”.
Did anyone hear that part? It was rediculous.
You’re joking, right? He went down a list from black to yellow to brown and just rhymed words…and you actually took offense?[/quote]
Judge for yourself…see Obama’s reaction…yes he went down the list of shit from the past.
He is basically saying Whites are WRONG…period. We embrace the wrong. We just elected a black prez…what else needs to happen for the black population to stop pushing us back when we extend our hand in friendship?
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Racism is when you see a black guy, performing better than a white guy and then put his effort down.
For example: one might see a black president deliver a speech that could very well be the speech of the century. Coming from 8 years of misunderinterpretations and then have the balls to say: “I’ve heard better speeches from vacuum cleaner salesmen.”
That my friends, is racism.
No, Racist is having a hate whitey prayer at the inaguration. I was offended. Here we are, elected a black prez, and the guy drives a wedge in there when we are supposed to be coming together “When white will embrace what is right”
So he’s really saying no, “You’re still all evil fucks because you are white”.
Did anyone hear that part? It was rediculous.
You’re joking, right? He went down a list from black to yellow to brown and just rhymed words…and you actually took offense?
Judge for yourself…see Obama’s reaction…yes he went down the list of shit from the past.
He is basically saying Whites are WRONG…period. We embrace the wrong. We just elected a black prez…what else needs to happen for the black population to stop pushing us back when we extend our hand in friendship?
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First off, how does that comment come across as a slap to your face and exactly what would the man have needed to say so that your little feelings don’t EVER get hurt.
First off, how does that comment come across as a slap to your face and exactly what would the man have needed to say so that your little feelings don’t EVER get hurt.
PC crap.[/quote]
Why does he have to pray for the day when “white embraces whats right?”
It has happened already. When will it be enough for you to stop pulling race into everything? He spoke of unity and that’s cool, but then basically says things still have not changed.
That’s a slap in the face, especially when I loath racists, and we whites have done our best by electing and embracing a black president, for the prayer to then tell me I’m still evil. WTF factor for sure.
It would have been fine if he would just not bring in race…but I guess it’s hard for him because it’s all he has known in performing his sermons in the past.
I was startled by it as well, and though it was a poor choice of words. Or maybe a poor choice of topics. This was the inauguration of the president of the United States of America, not a civil rights rally.
As I said early in the thread, I was stunned to find such overt race-focus in the closing prayer. And I don’t think of myself as being particularly sensitive.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I was startled by it as well, and though it was a poor choice of words. Or maybe a poor choice of topics. This was the inauguration of the president of the United States of America, not a civil rights rally.
As I said early in the thread, I was stunned to find such overt race-focus in the closing prayer. And I don’t think of myself as being particularly sensitive. [/quote]
Well surprise, race is still a HUGE issue to many minorities in this country. If it comes across as “startling” that things are this way, all I can do is wonder how you were unaware of this to start with.
I have heard that same “yellow will be mellow” line along with the others from random sources starting as far as the 60’s. None of that is new.
“Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around ? when yellow will be mellow ? when the red man can get ahead, man ? and when white will embrace what is right.”
Just going down a list? Why did he choose whites as the only color to make a negative remark about?
I really didn’t expect the race card to be pulled out this early, but that is exactly what happened here. Yep, we all get it. We just elected our first black president but whites embracing wrong has still forced blacks to the back of the line and kicked latinos out completely.
LOL…please. I’m aware that race is an issue to minorities in this country. I simply suggest that that was not the best venue for highlighting it and in that particular manner. As you can see, it has upset at least one of your fellow Americans. I suspect there are others.
So I’m going to call it imprudent. I suspect our first black president finds it so, too.
What about Obama’s reaction should we be looking for, again?
It looked to me like he found it comical and was rather pleased. Should that have been the appropriate reaction?
I don’t see how finding “when the red man can get ahead, man” comical is inappropriate. It’s a cute, silly little rhyme.[/quote]
…and that’s all it was…one that has been around for longer than most of the people complaining have been alive. Considering the age of the pastor who said it, I am sure the only people making an issue of it are the ones who were clueless to that “silly little poem” existing before they heard it for the first time yesterday.
One of my fears about an Obama presidency has been that all political debate will degenerate into a cesspool of racial shit. Obama himself has been fairly mature about handling the racial stuff, but everybody else hasn’t been. People don’t seem to be able to stop themselves from returning to the subject of race. I’ve done it, despite being aware of the need not to do it, and Professor X is doing it now… I think there is a real danger that people will make this as bad as it can possibly be.
First off, how does that comment come across as a slap to your face and exactly what would the man have needed to say so that your little feelings don’t EVER get hurt.
PC crap.
Why does he have to pray for the day when “white embraces whats right?”
It has happened already. When will it be enough for you to stop pulling race into everything? He spoke of unity and that’s cool, but then basically says things still have not changed.
That’s a slap in the face, especially when I loath racists, and we whites have done our best by electing and embracing a black president, for the prayer to then tell me I’m still evil. WTF factor for sure.
It would have been fine if he would just not bring in race…but I guess it’s hard for him because it’s all he has known in performing his sermons in the past.
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Along similar lines, NPR, since Obama won the democratic nomination, keeps asking people what they think about the Obama election.
Almost invariably, when talking to someone of a race other than white, someone would say something along the lines of ‘I never thought a black man would be President.’ or ‘I never thought I’d live to see a black man in the White House.’ or ‘Now I feel like I can do anything I want with my life.’
The first couple times I heard it, it didn’t stick out (usually it was from people who could remember segregation or were too young to fully understand the deeper context of their words), but after eight months (especially in the last three days), hearing it from people of multiple races, and vastly different age groups it’s getting irritating.
It’s almost a false incredulity and it makes me think the speaker has a very self-loathing mentality and a very warped understanding of the white perception of race.
I have trouble refraining from screaming at people;
Really? You didn’t think after reading his book, maybe he or some other black man could be President? Not in the next 50 yrs.!? When he announced his candidacy, you didn’t think he had a snowball’s chance? You didn’t think after getting the nomination over an experienced, white, ‘Washington Insider’ that his chances of winning were a little better than 50/50? What fucking planet were you living on? You didn’t think you could catch a break or work hard and excel in this world until a black man was president? What the hell is wrong with you?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
I was startled by it as well, and though it was a poor choice of words. Or maybe a poor choice of topics. This was the inauguration of the president of the United States of America, not a civil rights rally.
As I said early in the thread, I was stunned to find such overt race-focus in the closing prayer. And I don’t think of myself as being particularly sensitive.
Well surprise, race is still a HUGE issue to many minorities in this country. If it comes across as “startling” that things are this way, all I can do is wonder how you were unaware of this to start with.
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Whites are a minority in California. I guess it can start being a “huge issue” for us out here then.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
One of my fears about an Obama presidency has been that all political debate will degenerate into a cesspool of racial shit. Obama himself has been fairly mature about handling the racial stuff, but everybody else hasn’t been. People don’t seem to be able to stop themselves from returning to race. I’ve done it, despite being aware of the need not to do it, and Professor X is doing it now… I think there is a real danger that people will make this as bad as it can possibly be.[/quote]
This is truly hilarious. I’m not even the one who brought up that “poem” but I get labeled as “doing it now”?
That doesn’t even make any sense. If anyone challenges what one of you says, it means the person disagreeing is “degenerating into a cesspool of racial shit” but the people who brought it up aren’t?
