AND that “it was so HARD…”
Not if he is part of “the Tribe” it isn’t…
I do think it’s inappropriate but I also believe that at least 90% of high profile elected officials are guilty of this.
People in general are mainly interested in serving their self only.
Edit: Not a Trump fan (mostly because he’s an idiot) or a fan of any elected official that is a career politician. Elected positions were not intended to be a career choice.
In a recent interview, Rudy Giuliani said:
“President Trump won’t throw me under the bus…but I have insurance…”
Ummmmm…
You certainly can make of that what you wish…
Guilani, Perry and other assorted Trumpkins didn’t go to Ukraine only to dig up dirt on Bidens. They went there to snatch lucrative gas contracts and earn themselves some serious money.
They saw how much Manafort with his ostrich coats was raking in and said to themselves “holy crap, we have to get in on that”.
I’m not talking about legal corruption such as sitting on a board somewhere and getting 300-500k for nothing (Haley, Biden), I’m talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. There’s still money to be made in the East overnight.
Not to mention that Dmytro Firtash, the mobster who is facing extradition to the US and a lengthy prison spell is probably very…generous when it comes to paying for services and Solomon, DiGenova and other conservative lawyers and media personalities. 500k he gave to Guiliani through Parnas and Fruman is nothing for a guy worth billions.
I am an independent voter. One view of Trump’s phone request is that it was a vindictive reaction after the Muller conclusions. He didn’t balance his office demands with a human nature desire to even the score.
Another view–considering Exxon board members receive under $50,000/month for their work-- is that Ukrainian public/private corruption reached into one of our highest elected official’s immediate families. Trump’s phone request was perhaps made to root out bribery on behalf of the American people.
I can care less about Trump’s personal desires or whether he’s impeached, but as a voter I want Ukraine’s and Burisma’s actions investigated.
You do understand that Biden was pushing to have that investigation move forward?
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Ok, let’s put aside the fact that Biden Sr. was forcing Ukraine into removing a prosecutor that was protecting Burisma owner Zlochevsky.
What about the first part of the “favor” from the transcript, investigation into CrowdStrike? That’s an absurd Russian conspiracy theory that the POTUS fervently believes in for one reason or the other.
Has Trump said anything about incredibly shady dealings of his own Energy Secretary in Ukraine?
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You seem reasonable and potentially open-minded. What do you make of the fact that Trump had his personal lawyer and major campaign surrogate running point on this matter? Shouldn’t it be handled by DOJ and/ or State?
Second, what do you make of the fact that aid was conditioned on the announcement of an investigation and not on actually running an investigation? That was Sondland’s testimony.
Last, do you really think Trump has a genuine interest in stamping out corruption? He’s surrounded himself with corrupt people who are now serving or have served jail sentences for their crimes - Flynn, Gates, Manafort, Cohen, Stone… who am I missing? Maybe a good first step for an anti-corruption crusader is don’t hire corrupt people to work for you.
Jump in, Brother/Sister!
More voices are always welcome here. The more voices we hear; the more we learn and gain a much greater perspective.
Please stop parroting this preposterous Fox News talking point. I mean, what does “overturning” even mean here: removing Trump + Pence in order to… uhhh, install HRC + Kaine??
Let’s be clear, this impending impeachment is much more like a job performance review and he’s about to be censured (and possibly fired) for violating the terms of employment for that particular position.
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Let me add this, @chillain.
It is also part of a process written into the Constitution…
(You know…part of those “Checks and Balances/Constitutional Protections” that Conservatives used to care about when President Obama was in Office?)
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If master Trump says it’s a coup, then it’s a coup.
And how many of his cultists had to Google coup?
Am I correct in saying the Biden was in fact completely in line with the official US position in pushing for the prosecutor’s removal?
Must this not be stressed, that Biden was executing policy as his position required, while Trump was thwarting Congress, at least temporarily, for non-official, non-US, entirely personal benefit?
This unconditional approval of Trump is just a complete abandonment of any sort of Republican/conservative principles.
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That’s where we keep the chickens…
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Yes, that was the official policy of the US, EU and the IMF. Not to mention daily street protests by ordinary Ukrainians for his dismissal.
The IMF blocked a 2 billion loan tranche until the prosecutor was removed. EU ambassadors used to call then-president Poroshenko daily asking for the prosecutor’s dimissal.
In other news, those two articles actually mean “I want to help my client get reelected and earn an easy hundred million in the process”
This is some serious money, Naftogaz earns 8 billion a year and I’m sure Donald was in on this hare brained plan:
Two associates of Rudy Giuliani tried to recruit a top Ukrainian energy official in March in a proposed takeover of the state oil-and-gas company, describing the company’s chief executive and the then-U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch as part of “this Soros cartel” working against President Trump.
In the case of Mr. Firtash, an energy tycoon with deep ties to the Kremlin who is facing extradition to the United States on bribery and racketeering charges, one of Mr. Giuliani’s associates has described offering the oligarch help with his Justice Department problems — if Mr. Firtash hired two lawyers who were close to President Trump and were already working with Mr. Giuliani on his dirt-digging mission. Mr. Firtash said the offer was made in late June when he met with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, both Soviet-born businessmen involved in Mr. Giuliani’s Ukraine pursuit.
Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, Joseph A. Bondy, confirmed that account and added that his client had met with Mr. Firtash at Mr. Giuliani’s direction and encouraged the oligarch to help in the hunt for compromising information “as part of any potential resolution to his extradition matter.”
Mr. Firtash’s relationship to the Trump-allied lawyers — Victoria Toensing and Joseph diGenova — has led to intense speculation that he is, at least indirectly, helping to finance Mr. Giuliani’s campaign. But until now he has stayed silent, and many of the details of how and why he came to hire the lawyers have remained murky.
In the interview, Mr. Firtash said he had no information about the Bidens and had not financed the search for it. “Without my will and desire,” he said, “I was sucked into this internal U.S. fight.” But to help his legal case, he said, he had paid his new lawyers $1.2 million to date, with a portion set aside as something of a referral fee for Mr. Parnas.
Why can’t you people have a conversation without throwing around Trumpkin or Trumpublican?
When did having a different position on politics make someone deserving of name calling?
If you were so sure of your positions you wouldn’t have to be snarky and angry and talk down to people just because they hold different views.
You sure?
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Since you enjoy name calling, You’re an idiot.
Thank you. I enjoyed that.