I did something like this for my second meet. It CAN work, but you have to time it right. I peaked in training, hit a lifetime squat PR, and then couldn’t match it in the meet.
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I will keep that in mind. Thank you.
Coffinworm sounds better than U2! Bwahahaha
I know this is an old post but fuck it… That fucking protocol FUCKED me up so badly I have never done it again. I’m not talking “aw shucks my delts are sore” I literally could not raise my arms above like 20 degrees from my waist without severe pain the day after, to the point where it was interfering with my job. I honestly thought I ruined my shoulders.
Maybe I could have been smart about it and built up to 100, or if I do it again start at 30-50 or something… but man that was a scary 2-3 days.
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Confession: If I see someone doing front raises I immediately assume they don’t know what they’re doing. If you’re hitting a heavy flat, incline, and overhead press you shouldn’t need to isolate front delts
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He didn’t have a clue!
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Not going to flame on here, nvm lol
Hmm if you’re enhanced I guess I could see the need for them. I believe the best programs focus on compound movements. If you focus on compounds I’m under the impression that front delts get more than enough stimulus so extra volume through isolation, especially as a natural, is not only unnecessary, it’s actually counterproductive.
Confession 2: I believe if your confession isn’t flame inducing it’s not a real confession
I see you’re training for strongman.
Front raises are good training for a front hold event. One of my favorite ways to do it is with a plate, rather than dumbbells, raised to full ROM. Keep going until the pain forces you to stop.
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Flame free 
They work traps too. Atleast Paul Carter thinks so
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I just mean it as a volume thing, extra curriculars let you recover and adapt to more. Trying to put my argument and thought process out logically without flaming.
I’ll have to give those front holds a try sometime, just started training front carries not long ago and love them
Another flame free confession, directly working traps also doesn’t make sense to me, they can be worked in other ways like heavy carries and pulls. But my traps are tiny so…
May as well go all in, not a fan of direct front delt, trap, forearm, low back, or calf work.
If you’ve ever done them like he suggests, you know they do. I get more sore in my lower traps than in my delts with them.
I think we need to define what reason you’re training them for.
For strength, what if your weak point in the bench is your delts? If you keep hammering away at compound movements, you will only exacerbate the issue as your pecs and triceps will get disproportionately stronger.
For hypertrophy, you might be built in such a way that you press more with your triceps than delts, leaving them under stimulated. This is double true for the middle delts (confession: I can’t stand the people who call them medial delts. Medial delts are not a thing). So direct shoulder work would help balance things out. Especially since it’s less systemically taxing than compound movements so you can really ramp the volume up.
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I’ve used them to strengthen the scrap retractors and whatnot using slow, controlled, low weight high tut.
The bad part of them is when people lean in and wing up their scaps. Posture and form have to be rock solid.
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Haha the medial delt thing gets me too. It’s lateral, if it was medial it would be on the other side of the shoulder joint, not a lot of room there for something new.
Training purpose is important and I could see the validity of using them while focusing on scapular retraction. I think it’s fair to say most people have a forward rounded posture though due to overdeveloped anterior delts.
I still believe anterior delts get more than enough stimulus from presses at different angles but could see it used as “the icing on the cake” from time to time. I don’t think it has a regular place in programming though and should only be used occasionally, if at all.
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Your confession is a flame against mine. Therefor, your confession is not valid.
Further, you can’t flame this confession.
(Can’t resist an opportunity to post Ms. Kendrick - Flame Free!)
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Totally different animal, haha. Front hold is just a timed pain tolerance event. Not a great one, but typically shows up in a competition when they’ve run out of ideas.
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I used to live watching this is the old world strongest man shows in the 1980’s. These were always a great equaliser and some very strong guys got shown up bad.