I think I saw something similar in the running community back in the day with people talking about junk miles. Then you’d see all the low mileage hype (40-60 miles a week) from successful runners who were actually running 100+ miles but they didn’t count the “junk miles.” So now you’ve got the exact same training which some people call high volume and some people call low volume based on what they count as actual work, sound familiar from some of the arguments here?
There was also the idea of effective pace aka effective reps. Different sports and physiology, same arguments with plenty of anecdotal evidence for each side.
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You hit the mark. That is the exact correlation when you hear the term junk reps and or volume. Actually the term isn’t new at all regarding lifting. It also goes back to the concept of diminished returns.
I confess that I am genuinely getting fed up with people who, lacking accomplishments of their own, see fit to attempt to sit on the shoulders of giants instead.
“Well Lyle McDonald said this in a podcast, and Borris Sheiko said this in an interview, and Josh Bryant said this”
Ok dude, but what do YOU think on the matter? Regurgitating what smart people say doesn’t make you smart, and if you know all that stuff and can’t actually put it to any effect, maybe there’s something missing.
I also confess that I am extremely pedantic when someone sees fit to say “So and so said to me that” when what they mean to say is “So and so replied to my comment on a social media post that”
Is your gripe that they feel the need to relay information they’ve heard from other sources or more the lack of follow up? For example: “Greg Panora says this” rather than “Greg Panora advised me this and, after doing it, I became bigger/stronger”
It’s more that it’s simply NOT a conversation to say what other people say.
I can go read what Panora has written or hear what he has said too. Someone bringing that into a conversation isn’t actually conversing, and, inevitably, when you refute them they’ll pull the whole “Why don’t you go tell Greg that”.
Sure dude, and while I’m at it, why don’t I go tell him you’re running your mouth and speaking FOR him?
It’s just a cowardly way to have a dialogue. It’s an attempt to be untouchable by having no real opinion.
There’s a lot of information out there though, even a voracious reader like yourself couldn’t capture it all. Sometimes it can be useful to be pointed in the right direction.
I believe i get your point though, which is that appeals to authority have no place in internet arguments, although surely the bigger problem is that the internet arguments are happening to start with.
This is useful in an exchange of advice. “Hey guys, how can I improve coming out of the hole in the squat?” “Well this is what Greg Panora says” “Oh cool, thanks”
But in an argument, it’s simply cowardly. Instead of “I think/feel/believe XYZ” it’s “Greg Panora thinks/feels/believes XYZ”. If Greg wants to have the argument, let him have the argument. If YOU want to have the argument, then YOU have to have the argument.
I just see it as Pokemon battling. Let’s not go about summoning our best monster and matching weaknesses against strengths: let’s either be the ones to have the argument or let their not be an argument.
reminds me of Stalinist USSR- academics use to start their papers with “by the wisdom of Comrade Stalin” as if he was responsible for the ideas presented
If I get your point of view and the point your making. I think the problem is those in some cases who want to get in a debate know they may not have street credibility. Which yeah can get old.in away one could say it’s a form of coat tail ridding
