The End of Women’s Powerlifting?

I knew of one ftm that worked at the local pharmacy. She was somewhat understated and really didn’t make a point of herself.

Another was an mtf who worked with my wife at two different places (call center/bpoc). That one was just very strange and awkward in general, cuz when Tony transitions to Tonya the five o’clock shadow doesn’t care about your pronouns.

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  1. Yes. I once worked at a hospital with one who was nurse.
  2. Of course. There’s one at my gym.
  3. Yes. Did you ever see how popular Janae Kroc is? The one at my gym has been there with friends.

I assume it is very easy for them to make friends these days.

And it wasn’t a problem for anyone because that person just acted like any other human. I know of two mtf that I work with that are great people.

It appears to me that many in this group are doing it mainly for attention/to get a rise out of people (standard young person behavior) not out of any real desire to be the opposite gender. I would think every trans person (if truly trans) would want to do whatever they could to present as their new gender because the whole point is to live as a man/woman when biologically they aren’t one.

So in the end it comes down to be a good human no matter what gender you indenture as. Hint: the story ain’t about any one person.

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I should have been more clear. I was talking about those who seem to exist solely on social media. The ones whose bios include activist, as if that is an actual career.

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A lot of people see this and say, but who got first and second place? And if women did, then to them it’s totally okay.

But it’s not. Just because a female wins on occasion, it doesn’t delete the advantage that male bodies have over female bodies.

If you get the chance to skim this woman’s whole thread, it’d be worth the time.

Click on her name (Kim Shasby Jones) and it’ll open the whole discussion.

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I like forty degree day’s standard of fairness. As long as a cis (actual) woman wins all is fair. Now that is one deep thinking person.

Since “forty degree day” is all lowercase is that their pronoun. Just asking.

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I know! Crazy, right? I used to have a hard time with their argument though.

This argument comes from the same people who would say stuff like, “What are you going to do, just ban everyone with a physical advantage of some sort?”

So they equate being male – and all the physical advantages that come with it – to something like having long legs or growing up with better coaches as a kid.

And the Twitter thread from Kim Shasby Jones finally clarified what I was unable to put into words.

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Ha! It very well could be. The online activists seem happiest when we’re jumping through linguistic hoops all the time.

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World Athletics bans trans athletes

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They should do a sequel to A League of Their Own where men start joining women’s baseball.

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First I’ve seen of this situation from 2016:

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That’s a fascinating story! Check out who got first place on that one.

I remember hearing about Castor Semenya who has DSD (a new term that replaces “intersex”), which is kind of a tough situation since a person can be born with male and female organs or visible body parts. My understanding is Semenya has female body parts but XY chromosomes. I could be wrong about that though.

What should do sporting organizations do about rare genetic conditions like that? Should they just go by chromosomes?

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Though I have never heard it said of Castor Semenya, I had thought that she had Klinefelter syndrome, which is also known as XXY syndrome. When taking genetics in college there were also those with XXXY, or more X’s but only a single Y.

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Thank you for adding those details! What do you think governing sports bodies should do in special circumstances like this?

The World Athletics organization is requiring “intersex” persons to keep their blood tested Total Testosterone below 2.5ng/dL.

This is a reasonable compromise that most everyone should feel is fair.

Personally, I wouldn’t allow them to compete, but I take “woman” literally as biology defines it. In my thought, they just don’t meet the qualifications. I know it comes across as harsh, and maybe not “fair”, but I am more interested in fairness to all women (XX chromosomes). A person born woman should never be at a disadvantage in a woman’s sports event to anyone. PERIOD.

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I completely agree.

“COC lawyers” lol

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Nicolette Cage.

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