I don’t know that disruptions and hyper activity are the main autistic traits… at all…
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But did they? I did a few unscientific timings on my phone for each leg of that team, and they were each around 26 or 27 seconds. Seems like that entire team was just faster than the competition. Hell, the third girl appeared to my eyes to pull away from the field the most.
I don’t care to keep timing this, but if someone wants to verify further, go for it.
Okay, I did keep timing it, and the last one I just did had the second runner putting up the slowest time for the team (timed from the hand off, which is probably why): 27.12, 28.86, 26.08, 27.4.
Whether that last point holds up as true, I don’t see the evidence that they did, in fact, “smoke these girls.”
(I went off of the heat 4 video based on your included screen grab because the video seems to start after the race in question? Also, I’m not a track expert; open to being proven wrong.)
EDIT: The team from the same school finished first in heat 5, as well, putting up roughly the same overall time.
The guy literally slows down and looks backward like he was confused if a race was going on. It didn’t look to me like he was even trying.
Edit: The hand off isn’t great either and his first step isn’t even straight it’s to the right. At least 2 mistakes and he appears to easily extend their lead.
At the end of the day I don’t really care. I have son. They’re not going to have to deal with this specific issue. I just find it bizarre.
So then are trans athletes competing to dominate or competing to not even try? Because facing extreme backlash for wanting to compete in a sport and then not even trying seems pretty strange.
I’m also not really sure we can use perceived effort as a way to determine the fairness of a competition. They were either faster, better, stronger or they weren’t. In this case, they weren’t.
Look, I’m pretty dang liberal, but I don’t have an answer on trans athletes and competition. However, let’s at least use examples of actual unfair competition if we are going to have a debate.
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While Olympic records aren’t being smashed, trans athletes are grossly overrepresented at the elite levels compared to the general population (by like 40000%). I believe what we end up seeing is that the elite men aren’t generally transitioning. What you end up with is mediocre male athletes competing as women and drastically improving their standing. The trans woman weightlifter went from failing to qualify for nationals to in the discussion for a gold medal. Same with the recent NCAA swimmer. Trans women aren’t destroying records yet, but you have to understand how small the talent pool is currently. Wait an elite or even very good man does it. Who doesn’t think Jane Croc could demolish female powerlifting?
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I think it depends on the specific person. Some just want to compete in a sport. Might be this guy, I have no idea.
Tbh, he just seems to be kind of a goofy dude. Not because he’s trans or whatever. He just seems uncoordinated.
You’re really telling me if you watched a man and a women compete in whatever and you can clearly tell the man is not putting in nearly as much effort, you’d say you can’t tell if the competition is fair if the score or time or whatever is close?
Again, I don’t understand how we watched the same video and you don’t see how clearly unfair this is.
But, to each his own.
Why don’t we see transmen competing in men’s sports?
Oh wait…
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It’s also worth considering the upcoming demographics. This student wasn’t indoctrinated into the idea that boys can become girls and then somehow grow up into a woman at a young age. It wasn’t a thing 15 years ago.
Now we have an entire generation being taught that they might be, can be and even should be members of the opposite sex from a very young age.
When today’s five year olds get to their teens there will be a massively larger population of boys who think they are girls (and vice versa, but somehow we don’t have a problem with those people taking over men’s sports).
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I agree, examples are few and far between because this situation is still relatively new. As gen Z (I think that’s the current generation) get’s older I only see the problem getting worse. Particularly if there aren’t guidelines put into place to reduce the likelihood of someone claiming they’re trans or non-binary specifically to compete.
A lot of people find ways to cheat. A lot of parents push boundaries for their kids to get ahead or live vicariously through them. This is true across the board.
And we never will.
It is almost like your chromosomes that are either XX or XY have a profound physiological difference.
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It appears to me that a very raw or untrained male athlete can walk on and hang with a whole field of trained female athletes.
The advantage may not be clear from a purely time/distance standpoint, but it seems abundantly clear to me that with even a bit of practice and running training, the person in question would smoke that field.
I know that requires some speculation, but thats just how I read the performance.
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I’m also going to push back on this a bit. Yes, a trans athlete will receive some backlash and in some cases it’s extremely ugly; however, they will also receive a ton of support for their “bravery” so I’m not so sure this is that much of a factor.
Look at the Lia Thompson situation. He’s received national praise and was even nominated for NCAA woman of the year.
That’s mind boggling to me.
Obviously, this thread is about sports, but this extends much further into society. There’s now a Clinton She persisted book about Rachel Levine. I can’t even wrap my head around that.
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I don’t call men (trans or not) competing against women to be brave…i call that cowardice because they are not competing against men
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At the end of the day, I agree with SBT in that, a good portion of these cases are just kids that are confused and want to compete in something. They’re not thinking about “fairness” and I don’t think they’re being cowardly. I think society has let them down so spectacularly that it doesn’t even occur to them that there is anything wrong with boys/men competing against girls/women.
I think this guy’s name is Chloe or something like that now. I honestly feel bad for him and I don’t mean that in a condescending way. The situation isn’t’ his fault. It’s ours.
*Adults, on the other hand, I’m not giving them the benefit of a doubt.
I do admit there was institutionalization in the 1950’s. A common saying when we were kids when you acted up was that “the men in the white coats will be taking you to Chattahoochee.”
My main point is there are far more people with autism now than there was in the 1950’s (and I mean percentage). To reject that is to eliminate the possibility that something changed that is causing a greater percentage of people with autism.
I am okay with anyone “writing off” the possibility that the environment, medication, lifestyle, or anything else that has changed during my life is contributing to what I see as the increase in autism. Why look for something that you are certain isn’t there? If I were certain, I wouldn’t either. But it looks most like being willfully ignorant to me.
Y = f(x)
Are you positive you know all the potential x’s?
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I don’t know either, but my son was definitely disruptive. He was asked to not return to a play day with 2 to 3 year old kids. He didn’t last but two trips there, even with his mother. (I was 44 when we began fostering my two sons, we eventually adopted them after what seemed like endless, meaningless hearings to preserve the parental rights of birth parents who never once were in court.)
I am guessing a big part of it is seeing autism as a spectrum disorder now more so than in the past. Kids like my brother would have been identified in the 1950s because he is clearly not normal. Kids that were a bit off / awkward were likely missed. There is also just more focus on mental health or conditions. There also is more screening, teachers recommend it, parents turn to it when there kid doesn’t seem quite the same as others. You just find something a lot more when you look for it.
I am not saying there isn’t more autism now than there was in the 50s. There may be. Perhaps new causes are present in today’s world that were not there before. But I also think that understanding the disorder as a spectrum, and increased screening explain some of the numbers.
Again, I understand this is beyond the scope of the thread, but I don’t know how we reached this point.
Transwomen are not at risk of cervical cancer because they don’t have a cervix… 
You’re bogging down medical institutions with unnecessary screenings to the detriment of women that could actually have said cancer over feelings. It cannot be described in any way other than insanity.
It really is the twilight zone.
Now if they had said trans men that would have made sense since a man going to an OB/Gyn to get checked for that would be out of place.
