[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
. . .again I still thing there is a social economic element to this. Low middle class or poverty level fight wars and . . . [/quote]
That’s actually a myth, at least in the United States.
At least since WWII, where they started keeping these kinds of stats, actual combat arms units have overwhelmingly been comprised of middle to upper class white males.
I am not sure where this myth cam from, but it is persistent.
There is one guy who speculates that the over-representation of whites in combat/casualties stems from middle class whites seeking adventure (and thus going combat arms) while poorer/minority folk join the military to get a job/skill:
http://old.nationalreview.com/owens/owens100402.asp[/quote]
Interesting. I considered joining the Coast Guard purely for thrill recently. Unfortunately they only had bs “skill” building positions open. No gunners mates, rescue or what ever the group engaging cartel smugglers is called.
Oh well, maybe someone will retire.
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Ive been saying this since my freshman year of highschool in 1981: “As the Enviroment goes, so humanity goes”.
Look at the cases of Autism as an example. In 1970 the incident of autism was 1 in 3500, now it is 1 in 90?
There is only one group of americans with NO incident of autism. Which one you ask, how about the one that has
NEVER inoculated their children, the AMISH.
How about the rise of obesity/ diabetes. I can remember only 7 FAT kids throughout my grade and highschooling.
Would the rise of the (electronic) machines (pun intended) have any effect on kids born after 1980? Fuck Yea…
Humanity has fully screwed itself and has but itself to blame.
For my brothers on this forum, keep the faith- sleep deep- eat meat and lift Strong(er). thanks for listening[/quote]
Here in Ontario we call them Mennonites. They may have zero cases of autismn but I can tell you from working in a hospital almost every Mennonite child I see wears glasses, not just some, damn near all of them. I never noticed untill a co-worker pointed it out to me. What this means I have no idea but it is food for thought.
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Amish =/= Mennonites. Close, but Mennonites are characterized by awesome expensive shoes and big American cars.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
. . .again I still thing there is a social economic element to this. Low middle class or poverty level fight wars and . . . [/quote]
That’s actually a myth, at least in the United States.
At least since WWII, where they started keeping these kinds of stats, actual combat arms units have overwhelmingly been comprised of middle to upper class white males.
I am not sure where this myth cam from, but it is persistent.
There is one guy who speculates that the over-representation of whites in combat/casualties stems from middle class whites seeking adventure (and thus going combat arms) while poorer/minority folk join the military to get a job/skill:
http://old.nationalreview.com/owens/owens100402.asp[/quote]
Interesting. I considered joining the Coast Guard purely for thrill recently. Unfortunately they only had bs “skill” building positions open. No gunners mates, rescue or what ever the group engaging cartel smugglers is called.
Oh well, maybe someone will retire.[/quote]
Make that Coast Guard Reserves
I think this might have something to do with it. As a society we teach children that everyone has worth even if they arent able or have not done shit. So if you walk around thinking that you don’t need to accomplish anything to be of value, wheres the motivation to play sports, lift weights, or in general do things that dot involve sitting on your ass.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
. . .again I still thing there is a social economic element to this. Low middle class or poverty level fight wars and . . . [/quote]
That’s actually a myth, at least in the United States.
At least since WWII, where they started keeping these kinds of stats, actual combat arms units have overwhelmingly been comprised of middle to upper class white males.
I am not sure where this myth cam from, but it is persistent.
There is one guy who speculates that the over-representation of whites in combat/casualties stems from middle class whites seeking adventure (and thus going combat arms) while poorer/minority folk join the military to get a job/skill:
http://old.nationalreview.com/owens/owens100402.asp[/quote]
Probably from the draft is where that came from, I would like to hear from actual Vets on this opinion to see if it jives.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Interesting. I considered joining the Coast Guard purely for thrill recently. Unfortunately they only had bs “skill” building positions open. No gunners mates, rescue or what ever the group engaging cartel smugglers is called.
Oh well, maybe someone will retire.[/quote]
My brother is a high commander in the CG. I could put in a good word for you.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Interesting. I considered joining the Coast Guard purely for thrill recently. Unfortunately they only had bs “skill” building positions open. No gunners mates, rescue or what ever the group engaging cartel smugglers is called.
Oh well, maybe someone will retire.[/quote]
My brother is a high commander in the CG. I could put in a good word for you.
;)[/quote]
No shit?
If you get me shipped off to Iraq I’m going to be really pissed. My schnauzers will miss me.