The Death of Conservatism

Bill Buckley died today. If you don’t know, Buckley was the father of the Modern Conservative movement in America. Has conservatism died with him?

[quote]Buckley’s home in Sharon, Conn., also served as the birthplace of Young Americans for Freedom, which became the nation’s largest conservative youth group. The group’s Sharon Statement outlined the principles of modern conservatism: individual liberty, limited government, the U.S. Constitution, federalism, the free-market economy and a strong national defense.

Those were the principles that Buckley and the conservatives in his orbit advanced from National Review’s founding in 1955, through the Barry Goldwater presidential campaign in 1964 and on to the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980, and even the Republican takeover of Congress in 1994. Conservatives who had been inspired by Buckley and Goldwater believed in 1980 and 1994 that their movement had finally achieved success.

In the 1994 Contract with America, conservatives declared that they would deliver “the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money.” Then in 2000, for the first time Republicans took control of both houses of Congress and the White House. At last, conservatives believed, they would be able to deliver on the agenda they had been advancing for decades.

What happened? Republicans increased federal spending by a trillion dollars in six years. They passed the biggest expansion of entitlements since the LBJ years. They federalized education. They gave unprecedented power to the executive. They launched a massive nation-building project thousands of miles from home, to do in Iraq what conservatives would never expect government to do in the United States.[/quote]

I’ll quote Professor Bainbridge, who anticipated this piece:

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As for serious left-liberals, expect to see much commentary on the left that links Buckley’s passing to the probable Democratic sweep coming in the Fall. There will be a lot of “end of the era” claims that Buckley’s death coincides with the demise of the movement he founded.

Don’t buy it. Buckley knew that the movement was in the long haul business. He also knew that there would be reverses. But he never gave up hope. As liberal columnist Rick Perlstein writes in a moving tribute ( http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/why-william-f-buckley-was-my-role-model ):

"The game of politics is to win over American institutions to our way of seeing things using whatever coalition, necessarily temporary, that we can muster to win our majority, however contingent - and if we lose, and we are again in the minority, live to fight another day, even ruthlessly, while respecting our adversaries' legitimacy to govern in the meantime, while never pulling back in offering our strong opinions about their failures, in the meantime. This was Buckleyism - even more so than any particular doctrines about 'conservatism.'"

We will need to emulate that spirit in the next few lean years. [/i]

Your article makes the mistake of confounding Republicans with conservatism. The Republicans in power after Gingrich stepped down - and the President’s “compassionate conservatism” weren’t conservative. Hopefully there’s a way conservatives can achieve power without giving up their principles to pander to the economically illiterate.

Damn. I really liked Buckley. Rest in peace, Bill.

As for conservatism, well, it ain’t dead until the last conservative dies, I imagine. William F. Buckley was a great conservative, but I daresay he wasn’t the last.

Godspeed, Bill.

The basic Conservative attitude of self-reliance and being skeptical of human nature, and institutions can never die. Whether we are born with it, or whether it grows from life experience and hard work, it is not dependant on one man, one party, or one movement.

It died with GWB.

[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:

Your article makes the mistake of confounding Republicans with conservatism. The Republicans in power after Gingrich stepped down - and the President’s “compassionate conservatism” weren’t conservative. Hopefully there’s a way conservatives can achieve power without giving up their principles to pander to the economically illiterate. [/quote]

I’m far more concerned about the pandering to those who are illiterate about the rest of the world (“I’ll double Guantanamo!”). Buckley, wise man that he was, quietly parted company with the mainstream of his party on Iraq: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ship-of-fools-johann-hari-sets-sail-with-americas-swashbuckling-neocons-457074.html

"Podhoretz and Buckley now inhabit opposite poles of post-September 11 American conservatism, and they stare at wholly different Iraqs. Podhoretz is the Brooklyn-born, street-fighting kid who travelled through a long phase of left-liberalism to a pugilistic belief in America’s power to redeem the world, one bomb at a time. Today, he is a bristling grey ball of aggression, here to declare that the Iraq war has been “an amazing success.” He waves his fist and declaims: “There were WMD, and they were shipped to Syria … This picture of a country in total chaos with no security is false. It has been a triumph. It couldn’t have gone better.” He wants more wars, and fast. He is “certain” Bush will bomb Iran, and “thank God” for that.

Buckley is an urbane old reactionary, drunk on doubts. He founded the National Review in 1955 �?? when conservatism was viewed in polite society as a mental affliction �?? and he has always been sceptical of appeals to “the people,” preferring the eternal top-down certainties of Catholicism. He united with Podhoretz in mutual hatred of Godless Communism, but, slouching into his eighties, he possesses a world view that is ill-suited for the fight to bring democracy to the Muslim world. He was a ghostly presence on the cruise at first, appearing only briefly to shake a few hands. But now he has emerged, and he is fighting.

“Aren’t you embarrassed by the absence of these weapons?” Buckley snaps at Podhoretz. He has just explained that he supported the war reluctantly, because Dick Cheney convinced him Saddam Hussein had WMD primed to be fired. “No,” Podhoretz replies. “As I say, they were shipped to Syria. During Gulf War I, the entire Iraqi air force was hidden in the deserts in Iran.” He says he is “heartbroken” by this “rise of defeatism on the right.” He adds, apropos of nothing, “There was nobody better than Don Rumsfeld. This defeatist talk only contributes to the impression we are losing, when I think we’re winning.” The audience cheers Podhoretz. The nuanced doubts of Bill Buckley leave them confused. Doesn’t he sound like the liberal media? Later, over dinner, a tablemate from Denver calls Buckley “a coward”. His wife nods and says, “Buckley’s an old man,” tapping her head with her finger to suggest dementia.

I decide to track down Buckley and Podhoretz separately and ask them for interviews. Buckley is sitting forlornly in his cabin, scribbling in a notebook. In 2005, at an event celebrating National Review’s 50th birthday, President Bush described today’s American conservatives as “Bill’s children”. I ask him if he feels like a parent whose kids grew up to be serial killers. He smiles slightly, and his blue eyes appear to twinkle. Then he sighs, “The answer is no. Because what animated the conservative core for 40 years was the Soviet menace, plus the rise of dogmatic socialism. That’s pretty well gone.”

This does not feel like an optimistic defence of his brood, but it’s a theme he returns to repeatedly: the great battles of his life are already won. Still, he ruminates over what his old friend Ronald Reagan would have made of Iraq. “I think the prudent Reagan would have figured here, and the prudent Reagan would have shunned a commitment of the kind that we are now engaged in… I think he would have attempted to find some sort of assurance that any exposure by the United States would be exposure to a challenge the dimensions of which we could predict.” Lest liberals be too eager to adopt the Gipper as one of their own, Buckley agrees approvingly that Reagan’s approach would have been to “find a local strongman” to rule Iraq."

[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Godspeed, Bill.

The basic Conservative attitude of self-reliance and being skeptical of human nature, and institutions can never die. Whether we are born with it, or whether it grows from life experience and hard work, it is not dependant on one man, one party, or one movement.[/quote]

Agreed, as well as the crybaby views of liberals. People always want change/think something is owed to them because they are alive.

There will always be people who like things the way they are, like established values, and will to tell you how it really is.

There will always be people who find fault with most things, cry alot, and then tell you how it really is.

I hate really right and left people…they are always crazy and their presence will always be constant.

Again, not so much a problem of conservatives per se. Conservatism is a big tent - Buckley himself helped make it so, by bringing together social, economic and strong national defense conservatives. At the end of the day, conservativism is very pragmatic - there aren’t a list of central tenets upon which everyone agrees, but there is a constant, internal argument about what it should be. This is in contrast to progressivism, which has been set in its beliefs for a long time.

To quote WFB:

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.

Don’t know much about him, but I understand he was an influential figure for many on the right. I’ve read NR occasionally and enjoyed it, mostly. But, recently I can’t even stand to read the mag. Outside of Derby, there’s a dismissive attitude about any real foreign policy criticism.

I like reading Jonah Goldberg occasionally for a laugh, and Derby is always a pleasure. Fitting that the only real conservative critic of US foreign policy in National Review would be a Brit.

Hey dont worry guys the conservitive movement is gonna be a marathon not a sprint. Also I dont know if you know about this but Michael Savavge is going to start a nationalist party in November!!! I cant wait!!!

[quote]jawara wrote:
Hey dont worry guys the conservitive movement is gonna be a marathon not a sprint. Also I dont know if you know about this but Michael Savavge is going to start a nationalist party in November!!! I cant wait!!![/quote]

That’s what we need, but here’s how the media will portray it: the white nationalist party. Savage will spend all of his time explaining why he’s not racist.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
That’s what we need, but here’s how the media will portray it: the white nationalist party. Savage will spend all of his time explaining why he’s not racist.[/quote]

It’s not a problem. Mike Savage is Jewish, which is a mitigating factor for the crime of being white. Everyone knows that Jews can’t be racists. Only an anti-Semite would ever accuse a Jew of racism.

You know whats really sad is that most older black people are VERY conservitive but vote democrat. I’d love to be one of the party’s spokensman but I would be called a “sellout” by other blacks and liberals.

[quote]jawara wrote:
You know whats really sad is that most older black people are VERY conservitive but vote democrat. I’d love to be one of the party’s spokensman but I would be called a “sellout” by other blacks and liberals.[/quote]

And that, is a damned shame.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
That’s what we need, but here’s how the media will portray it: the white nationalist party. Savage will spend all of his time explaining why he’s not racist.

It’s not a problem. Mike Savage is Jewish, which is a mitigating factor for the crime of being white. Everyone knows that Jews can’t be racists. Only an anti-Semite would ever accuse a Jew of racism. [/quote]

Love the irony.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
jawara wrote:
You know whats really sad is that most older black people are VERY conservitive but vote democrat. I’d love to be one of the party’s spokensman but I would be called a “sellout” by other blacks and liberals.

And that, is a damned shame.[/quote]

Dude how do you think I feel?

REAL conservativism died when Reagen took office.

[quote]Love2Lift wrote:
REAL conservativism died when Reagen took office.[/quote]

Reagan was, by many definitions, the only real conservative president since Calvin Coolidge, and no one since Reagan has been a conservative.

If our criterion is that the president must reason from conservative first principles to policy conclusions, then Reagan is the only modern conservative president. If our criterion is that the president must agree with most self-described conservatives on nearly every important issue, then Reagan is, again, the only modern conservative president.

Buckley will be missed. But this is not the death of conservatism. Look no further than Newt Gingrich; a very eloquent, ardent speaker of true conservative ideals. His speeches are captivating.

jawara: I remember JC Watts (R-OK) was one of the first sell-outs of the modern black conservative era.