The Dark Side

Today was a bit of a milestone day for me. I stepped on the scale and it registered an even 100kgs (220 lbs). That’s 10 kilograms or 22lbs over 4 weeks total. I. am. loving. this.

Unfortunately, bench numbers are still lagging behind, though they are slowly moving up. I got up 264 for 3 reps today, but hoped I could make that my working set. Unfortunately I just wasn’t able to do much more than that. Still feeling happy as a pig in shit though, and I know the strength is just something I have to keep at.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Today was a bit of a milestone day for me. I stepped on the scale and it registered an even 100kgs (220 lbs). That’s 10 kilograms or 22lbs over 4 weeks total. I. am. loving. this.

Unfortunately, bench numbers are still lagging behind, though they are slowly moving up. I got up 264 for 3 reps today, but hoped I could make that my working set. Unfortunately I just wasn’t able to do much more than that. Still feeling happy as a pig in shit though, and I know the strength is just something I have to keep at. [/quote]

22lbs in 4 weeks! You are doing very well, and are training around injury in the process. Keep this thread going as I am very interested in how much you gain by the end.

Looking forward to progress pics

[quote]2thepain wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Today was a bit of a milestone day for me. I stepped on the scale and it registered an even 100kgs (220 lbs). That’s 10 kilograms or 22lbs over 4 weeks total. I. am. loving. this.

Unfortunately, bench numbers are still lagging behind, though they are slowly moving up. I got up 264 for 3 reps today, but hoped I could make that my working set. Unfortunately I just wasn’t able to do much more than that. Still feeling happy as a pig in shit though, and I know the strength is just something I have to keep at.

22lbs in 4 weeks! You are doing very well, and are training around injury in the process. Keep this thread going as I am very interested in how much you gain by the end. [/quote]

Thanks 2thepain! Glad people are still reading and enjoying.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Today was a bit of a milestone day for me. I stepped on the scale and it registered an even 100kgs (220 lbs). That’s 10 kilograms or 22lbs over 4 weeks total. I. am. loving. this.

Unfortunately, bench numbers are still lagging behind, though they are slowly moving up. I got up 264 for 3 reps today, but hoped I could make that my working set. Unfortunately I just wasn’t able to do much more than that. Still feeling happy as a pig in shit though, and I know the strength is just something I have to keep at.

22lbs in 4 weeks! You are doing very well, and are training around injury in the process. Keep this thread going as I am very interested in how much you gain by the end.

Thanks 2thepain! Glad people are still reading and enjoying.

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Definately still enjoying. I might not post in here much but that’s because you go and answer pretty much every question I might have before I get the chance to ask…How much of that 22lbs can you attribute to water weight? Just a ballpark guess…

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:

Definately still enjoying. I might not post in here much but that’s because you go and answer pretty much every question I might have before I get the chance to ask…How much of that 22lbs can you attribute to water weight? Just a ballpark guess…[/quote]

MrZsasz I honestly couldn’t tell you. I know that I don’t really feel bloated, and I don’t think my “conditioning” looks any different than normal. Just seems like the muscles are pushing out a helluva lot more. My face may be just a bit puffy, I’m not sure. And since I’m not sure, it must not be that bad, if it is anything. I bumped Proviron up to 50mgs a day for the two weeks that I bumped up the dbol, but I’ve cut the dbol out now and the provi is back to 25mgs a day.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
MrZsasz wrote:

Definately still enjoying. I might not post in here much but that’s because you go and answer pretty much every question I might have before I get the chance to ask…How much of that 22lbs can you attribute to water weight? Just a ballpark guess…

MrZsasz I honestly couldn’t tell you. I know that I don’t really feel bloated, and I don’t think my “conditioning” looks any different than normal. Just seems like the muscles are pushing out a helluva lot more. My face may be just a bit puffy, I’m not sure. And since I’m not sure, it must not be that bad, if it is anything. I bumped Proviron up to 50mgs a day for the two weeks that I bumped up the dbol, but I’ve cut the dbol out now and the provi is back to 25mgs a day.

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Cortes, I’m watching this thread with great interest… Have you gained any fat, or is the whole 22 lbs muscle and a bit of water? (I think you mentioned that strength wasn’t up as much as you’d expected yet.)

[quote]Cortes wrote:
MrZsasz wrote:

Definately still enjoying. I might not post in here much but that’s because you go and answer pretty much every question I might have before I get the chance to ask…How much of that 22lbs can you attribute to water weight? Just a ballpark guess…

MrZsasz I honestly couldn’t tell you. I know that I don’t really feel bloated, and I don’t think my “conditioning” looks any different than normal. Just seems like the muscles are pushing out a helluva lot more. My face may be just a bit puffy, I’m not sure. And since I’m not sure, it must not be that bad, if it is anything. I bumped Proviron up to 50mgs a day for the two weeks that I bumped up the dbol, but I’ve cut the dbol out now and the provi is back to 25mgs a day.

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Well, that’s good to hear. I think the saddest part of a cycle is when someone blows up like mad then shrinks back down…well, like mad.

And you were pretty lean to start with so you would notice if you were really smoothing over. So, knock on wood, this cycle is looking like a winner.

Are you noticing much of a change since you dropped the dbol? Mentally? Physically?

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:
Cortes wrote:
MrZsasz wrote:

Definately still enjoying. I might not post in here much but that’s because you go and answer pretty much every question I might have before I get the chance to ask…How much of that 22lbs can you attribute to water weight? Just a ballpark guess…

MrZsasz I honestly couldn’t tell you. I know that I don’t really feel bloated, and I don’t think my “conditioning” looks any different than normal. Just seems like the muscles are pushing out a helluva lot more. My face may be just a bit puffy, I’m not sure. And since I’m not sure, it must not be that bad, if it is anything. I bumped Proviron up to 50mgs a day for the two weeks that I bumped up the dbol, but I’ve cut the dbol out now and the provi is back to 25mgs a day.

Well, that’s good to hear. I think the saddest part of a cycle is when someone blows up like mad then shrinks back down…well, like mad.

And you were pretty lean to start with so you would notice if you were really smoothing over. So, knock on wood, this cycle is looking like a winner.

Are you noticing much of a change since you dropped the dbol? Mentally? Physically?[/quote]

Well, it’s only been a couple of days but, honestly, no change. And to warden asking above, the strength is way up in the squat, not so much in the bench (which I have always sucked at), so no solid answer there. And no fat gain. In fact, despite eating more than usual (though fairly cleaner), I appear to have lost a bit of fat. Basically to this point it has been the dream cycle. I hate to be so damn positive in such a negative world, but, that is what I am experiencing.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
MrZsasz wrote:
Cortes wrote:
MrZsasz wrote:

Well, it’s only been a couple of days but, honestly, no change. And to warden asking above, the strength is way up in the squat, not so much in the bench (which I have always sucked at), so no solid answer there. And no fat gain. In fact, despite eating more than usual (though fairly cleaner), I appear to have lost a bit of fat. Basically to this point it has been the dream cycle. I hate to be so damn positive in such a negative world, but, that is what I am experiencing.[/quote]

Oh, don’t stop with the positivity…it seems every time I think I am ready to start a cycle someone goes and starts a thread like “HELP! I’m two shots in and my hair fell out, I have a C-cup, and my balls evaporated!!” and scares the crap out of me…nice for you to keep some calm.

And I knocked on wood so this didn’t jinx you…

So I have been half worrying that my test is underdosed or counterfeit or whatever and when I came off of the dbol (6 days ago) I would experience some problems, like loss of strength or size. I’m happy to report that none of that appears to be happening, and that the test I am using is Good Stuff. Still feeling great, still getting enormous pumps and making new PRs to boot.

Today was leg day and I decided to see what I was capable of. If you will recall, my last workout consisted of working sets of 284, today 284 was no problem for multiple sets, multiple reps, and I decided to try a new 1 rep max of 308. Not only did that go up smooth as butter through a fat man’s ass, but I pushed out one more rep with that after I was through with it.

I like! Lots of sets of squats before moving to the hack squat, which was my highest priority suspect for having tweaked my back last time, but no problems with that today. Then finished off with leg extensions.

I am unhappy to report that I appear to have pulled a small muscle in my leg affecting anything involving calves, and that is putting a stop on all calf development exercises, damnit. It’s been one thing after another this cycle, but I’m gonna do what I can.

Finally, I now have very oily skin, scattered very small zits on my chest, a single tiny guy on my cheekbone, and a nose in need of Biore blackhead extracting strips. I don’t look like Malcolm Pizzaface from 10th grade so far, so that’s comforting.

This is nearing the end of the 5th week on and I am really, really “feeling” it lately. I am popping out of my clothes and damnit if I don’t feel like dancing where I stand. I control myself, mind you, but it is difficult.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Today was leg day and I decided to see what I was capable of. If you will recall, my last workout consisted of working sets of 284, today 284 was no problem for multiple sets, multiple reps, and I decided to try a new 1 rep max of 308. Not only did that go up smooth as butter through a fat man’s ass, but I pushed out one more rep with that after I was through with it. [/quote]

NICE!. I find any increase in my squat to be uber-rewarding. Mostly because I find it the most difficult exercise to get right form-wise. And that is a nice jump in weight at this point in your cycle, leaving aside that so very disturbing description.

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I like! Lots of sets of squats before moving to the hack squat, which was my highest priority suspect for having tweaked my back last time, but no problems with that today. Then finished off with leg extensions. [/quote]

Just curious as to why you would go back to the hack squat. It doesn’t seem like you would be avoiding it due to laziness, more to the fact that it raises your chances of hurting yourself. Might be good to just leave it out altogether, maybe do some single leg work.

Is it a muscle weakness? A tightness? Pain? I know you said pull, but just wondering if some heavy massage or stretching would quickly put you on the road to recovery…

Anyway, enough of me filling your thread. Look forward to the continuing adventures…

Yeah, I probably should watch it around the hack squat, but I started with no weight at all and very slowly worked up to what for me was a decent but not too heavy weight. So far no problems. I’m pretty terrified of messing up the back again, so I feel my way around potentially dangerous exercises. Trust me, you never, never, ever, ever, EVER want to strain your back. It is the absolute worst. You can’t do shit but lie on your back all day, every tiny movement sends lightning flashes of pain throughout your body. You are literally crippled. It sucks a fart out of a dirty asshole and I was scared the whole time that I was going to be one of those people who never recover from his back injury. However, I refuse to let that happen to me.

As far as the calf goes, I’m pretty sure it is a pull or torn muscle. It is a very sharp pain, very specifically localized. And it gets aggravated with certain movements. Also it’s not terrible because it is so small but it is sharp enough I know I shouldn’t push it.

Again, don’t worry about filling this thread up! I appreciate your interest!

Cortes, as far as bench numbers go…don’t ever believe that you “suck” in any area of lifting. It simply is not true and will affect that certain lift if that is your mentality. If your bench press isn’t where you want it, work your ass of to get it there. Train your triceps HEAVY and as often as your body will allow. Do lockouts just below your sticking point so you can accelerate through it. The cycle sounds like it is going very well, very exciting to read…I am in week #3 with mine and really starting to feel the test in the gym now. It’s a great feeling.

Craig

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Also took a walk around the mall yesterday. My clothes are fitting tighter and my arms and chest are getting big, especially compared to before, and I was just feeling like a chingon.

If anybody wants to know what it feels like to be “on” test, this video is a pretty accurate depiction of exactly what it is like. Nice, eh?

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This is a totally serious question(directed at everyone) :

Does the same euphoria only happen with test, or with Dbol too, for example ?

Nice progress to the OP btw.

I have used test in all my cycles, but I did get over euphoric in september when I was on test+var.

I personally never tried dianabol and never will. Just personal caution with back pumps.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

As far as the calf goes, I’m pretty sure it is a pull or torn muscle. It is a very sharp pain, very specifically localized. And it gets aggravated with certain movements. Also it’s not terrible because it is so small but it is sharp enough I know I shouldn’t push it.

Again, don’t worry about filling this thread up! I appreciate your interest![/quote]

Is the pain near the insertion point or in the muscle belly?

The contrast showers man…remember them. Start working on the rehab of that thing now and keep lifting for the other areas.

[quote]sawadeekrob wrote:
Cortes wrote:

As far as the calf goes, I’m pretty sure it is a pull or torn muscle. It is a very sharp pain, very specifically localized. And it gets aggravated with certain movements. Also it’s not terrible because it is so small but it is sharp enough I know I shouldn’t push it.

Again, don’t worry about filling this thread up! I appreciate your interest!

Is the pain near the insertion point or in the muscle belly?

The contrast showers man…remember them. Start working on the rehab of that thing now and keep lifting for the other areas.

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Definitely the muscle belly. Will give the contrast showers a shot, rob, thanks.

[quote]craig_4g63 wrote:
Cortes, as far as bench numbers go…don’t ever believe that you “suck” in any area of lifting. It simply is not true and will affect that certain lift if that is your mentality. If your bench press isn’t where you want it, work your ass of to get it there. Train your triceps HEAVY and as often as your body will allow. Do lockouts just below your sticking point so you can accelerate through it. The cycle sounds like it is going very well, very exciting to read…I am in week #3 with mine and really starting to feel the test in the gym now. It’s a great feeling.

Craig

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You know what, Craig, you are absolutely right. I always tell others that their self defeating talk is limiting their position in life, because it is completely true, and yet here I am doing the exact same thing. Thanks for talking some sense into me. I’m gonna forget about past limitations and certainly the stupid stinkin thinkin I’ve been doing and focus upon my goals, rather than my shortcomings.

Seriously, thanks. That struck a nerve with me in a good way.
Good luck to you in your cycle, as well.

[quote]Leeuwer wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Also took a walk around the mall yesterday. My clothes are fitting tighter and my arms and chest are getting big, especially compared to before, and I was just feeling like a chingon.

If anybody wants to know what it feels like to be “on” test, this video is a pretty accurate depiction of exactly what it is like. Nice, eh?

This is a totally serious question(directed at everyone) :

Does the same euphoria only happen with test, or with Dbol too, for example ?

Nice progress to the OP btw.
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Thanks Leeuwer! Can’t answer your question completely accurately, unfortunately, as this is my first go at this thing, but I can tell you that, as I am on Testosterone enanthate, that I should not have been really feeling the effects of the test for a couple of weeks, but I was feeling pretty badass from the start, so I’d say that, yes, dianabol does contribute to the feeling of euphoria (though that is not the term I would use, as it is not a perfect description. My description of feeling like a badass or a superhero is more accurate, imo). Also, I think the test is a better overall feeling than the dbol, but perhaps that is just me. Now that I have cut out the dbol, I have a chance to feel just the test, which feels just a bit more “natural” to me, though I can’t put my finger on what it is or how to describe it, sorry. Both terrific compounds, in their own right, anyway.