[quote]roybot wrote:
Lest I forget, the original Day of the Dead gets my vote for a quality threequel. [/quote]
AGREED!
[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
K the people who thought the movie was bad need to calm down. It was a great movie. In the same league as the last one. Maybe better maybe not. Honestly I’m kind of tired of people being so critical of movies.
Oh and what are these story flaws that you speak of?
Btw the thing in Colorado was a tragedy. It is nothing more than a deluded person who made an extremely shitty decision. [/quote]
You are out of your mind if you think this was anywhere near as good as the last one.
[quote]Nards wrote:
They say most 3rd parts of superhero movies are not very good.
I can’t think of a good 3rd part of any trilogy except Return of the King.[/quote]
Can’t really call that a third movie, more of a third act in a 9 hour movie.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
They say most 3rd parts of superhero movies are not very good.
I can’t think of a good 3rd part of any trilogy except Return of the King.[/quote]
Can’t really call that a third movie, more of a third act in a 9 hour movie.[/quote]
I thought The Bourne Ultimatum was pretty good.
It just occurred to me that one thing that might have made this trilogy better would be if Nolan had used the Roman Falcone/Sal Maroni characters as the Penguin instead. The way Penguin is in the comics now, he’s more of a Mafia/organized crime-type who isn’t necessarily psychotic, just repulsive. But he’s a source of information, which would have worked well in place of Maroni and his influence over the GCPD in TDK. The way Nolan has approached this thing, he could have easily foregone any attempt at an origin and simply made him a character who simply already exists in the Nolan-Batman universe, who is grotesque in appearance and simply has the nickname “the Penguin” for whatever reason. Philip Seymour Hoffman or maybe even Kelsey Grammar would have been good in that role. But whatever. It was still a great trilogy.
Which makes me think: where do you guys think this trilogy ranks amongst the all-time greats? I suppose it shouldn’t be limited to trilogies but any film franchise with continuity to it over 3+ plus films like this one.
I would rank the Star Wars trilogy (just the first 3 films) at the top with the Godfather trilogy second. The only reason I don’t rank it first is because I thought the third film was horrible, by far worse than any of the other films in either saga. After those two, I would rank Nolan’s Batman trilogy third. I think it far surpasses the Lord of the Rings shit, and it’s lightyears ahead of the Matrix and the original Bad News Bears saga.
I wasn’t too thrilled with it TBH. I guess, for me, it was just too difficult to follow TDK with Joker.
I can’t really say why other than I just didnt think it lived up to its potential.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
They say most 3rd parts of superhero movies are not very good.
I can’t think of a good 3rd part of any trilogy except Return of the King.[/quote]
Can’t really call that a third movie, more of a third act in a 9 hour movie.[/quote]
I thought The Bourne Ultimatum was pretty good.
It just occurred to me that one thing that might have made this trilogy better would be if Nolan had used the Roman Falcone/Sal Maroni characters as the Penguin instead. The way Penguin is in the comics now, he’s more of a Mafia/organized crime-type who isn’t necessarily psychotic, just repulsive. But he’s a source of information, which would have worked well in place of Maroni and his influence over the GCPD in TDK. The way Nolan has approached this thing, he could have easily foregone any attempt at an origin and simply made him a character who simply already exists in the Nolan-Batman universe, who is grotesque in appearance and simply has the nickname “the Penguin” for whatever reason. Philip Seymour Hoffman or maybe even Kelsey Grammar would have been good in that role. But whatever. It was still a great trilogy.
Which makes me think: where do you guys think this trilogy ranks amongst the all-time greats? I suppose it shouldn’t be limited to trilogies but any film franchise with continuity to it over 3+ plus films like this one.
I would rank the Star Wars trilogy (just the first 3 films) at the top with the Godfather trilogy second. The only reason I don’t rank it first is because I thought the third film was horrible, by far worse than any of the other films in either saga. After those two, I would rank Nolan’s Batman trilogy third. I think it far surpasses the Lord of the Rings shit, and it’s lightyears ahead of the Matrix and the original Bad News Bears saga.[/quote]
The Chinese guy in the dark knight was almost the penguin, the godfather is overrated, Return of the Jedi was decent the ewoks killed it imo, still a great movie. The three first indie films should be up there though.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
They say most 3rd parts of superhero movies are not very good.
I can’t think of a good 3rd part of any trilogy except Return of the King.[/quote]
Can’t really call that a third movie, more of a third act in a 9 hour movie.[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more, since it was supposed to be one book before the publisher decided to make it a trilogy.
@massacre
as usual, the concealed carry permiters fail to make a point.
You CANNOT kill the shooter preemptively.
The best that comes out of this thinking would be something like the Zimmerman-Martin killing (or “self-defense” if you subscribe to that idea).
I loved it.
I could listen to Bane speak all day long.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
They say most 3rd parts of superhero movies are not very good.
I can’t think of a good 3rd part of any trilogy except Return of the King.[/quote]
Can’t really call that a third movie, more of a third act in a 9 hour movie.[/quote]
I thought The Bourne Ultimatum was pretty good.
It just occurred to me that one thing that might have made this trilogy better would be if Nolan had used the Roman Falcone/Sal Maroni characters as the Penguin instead. The way Penguin is in the comics now, he’s more of a Mafia/organized crime-type who isn’t necessarily psychotic, just repulsive. But he’s a source of information, which would have worked well in place of Maroni and his influence over the GCPD in TDK. The way Nolan has approached this thing, he could have easily foregone any attempt at an origin and simply made him a character who simply already exists in the Nolan-Batman universe, who is grotesque in appearance and simply has the nickname “the Penguin” for whatever reason. Philip Seymour Hoffman or maybe even Kelsey Grammar would have been good in that role. But whatever. It was still a great trilogy.
Which makes me think: where do you guys think this trilogy ranks amongst the all-time greats? I suppose it shouldn’t be limited to trilogies but any film franchise with continuity to it over 3+ plus films like this one.
I would rank the Star Wars trilogy (just the first 3 films) at the top with the Godfather trilogy second. The only reason I don’t rank it first is because I thought the third film was horrible, by far worse than any of the other films in either saga. After those two, I would rank Nolan’s Batman trilogy third. I think it far surpasses the Lord of the Rings shit, and it’s lightyears ahead of the Matrix and the original Bad News Bears saga.[/quote]
The Chinese guy in the dark knight was almost the penguin, the godfather is overrated, Return of the Jedi was decent the ewoks killed it imo, still a great movie. The three first indie films should be up there though.[/quote]
Lau was never in a million years going to be Penguin. That’s fanboy lore even more extreme than the Killer Croc theory. During an interview for The Prestige, Nolan was asked about the rumors that Philip Seymour Hoffman was going to be Penguin and he said that, while he’d like to work with Hoffman, the Penguin would be too tricky to slot into his real world Bat-verse:
Making the Penguin a triad gangster just to crow bar him into a movie is more trouble than it’s worth, is conceptually far below what Nolan did to make Ra’s immortality work, and totally at odds with the basic principle that all villains were chosen on how they would best challenge Batman and aid his development.
TDKR is amazing.
I’m seriously at any of you that expected TDK Part 2.
Fantastic, seen it twice, going to see again today and tmr.
So many homages, references to the comics, and every one of the TV series, that as a Batman fanboy, I heartily enjoyed.
Michael Cain can do no wrong in my eyes.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Michael Cain can do no wrong in my eyes.[/quote]
If you want to say his name the same way he does, say “My Cocaine”.
Great movie. LOVE the ending (especially re: Alfred).
As great as TDK was, I was really bothered by the ending, because… I know that there is no such thing as lying in the service of the Good (B’s whole “tell’em it was me” thing).
TDKR very much addresses that issue.
Going to the spoiler thread. (If you haven’t seen TDKR yet, strongly recommend you wait until you see it before reading spoiler thread.)