[quote]TheJonty wrote:
I need to think/type faster and/or leave this shit alone.[/quote]
Nah, you did good.
You mentioned the whole “paper money actually has value due to the fact it facilitates a much easier voluntary exchange of good and services. Because rather than find a 7-11 who wants me to do their books every time I want a diet coke, I can just do the books of a couple people (maybe not even 7-11’s), have them pay me in dollars and then use the paper money to buy my diet coke.”
[quote]bam7196 wrote:
Do you really think that’s what was meant by my post? I just hadn’t considered that some man hours have to go into manufacturing or humans still have to be involved or some “human input, elbow grease, whatever you want to call it” is still required.
The part that apparently went over your head is that the amount of manufacturing that one man can do with a relatively small amount of capital (time) spent making complex, capable and free workers, is so much greater than in the past that there’s no need for a human to do a job that a robot could do, just because they “have to.”[/quote]
No, the point you were trying to make didn’t go over my head, it actually landed quite a few feet in front of me with a feminine thud and didn’t even roll the rest of the way.
While you sit and dream of some utopia society were we can all sit around, smoke our bongs and sing folk tunes while musing on the glory that is life, you ignore the entire fact that SOME people will always have to work. And you can’t expect those SOME people to do it for free, unless you’re advocating the return of slavery on a massive scale.
You can’t have it both ways.
What about personal property. People like to own stuff. What are you going to do about that?
[quote]Im not going to continue to argue anyway. Maybe this wasnt even what Fullback meant. Proceed
[/quote]
No no, please stay. This is like freshman sociology where my professor was a blatant communist.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
I need to think/type faster and/or leave this shit alone.[/quote]
Nah, you did good.
[/quote]
Glad you think so, but I spend way too much time proofreading and fact-checking my posts when I get sucked into something like this. I hate posting errors, be they grammatical, logical, factual, whatever. And that’s time I could be spending training, or eating, or sleeping, or trying to get laid, or trying to get back into school, or whatever. Prioritizing has never been my strong suit, but it’s something I should be working on and this seems like a decent place to start. Or I’ll continue to get sucked in and you’ll see way more of me. Maybe I’ll even get an avatar.
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
I need to think/type faster and/or leave this shit alone.[/quote]
Nah, you did good.
[/quote]
Glad you think so, but I spend way too much time proofreading and fact-checking my posts when I get sucked into something like this. I hate posting errors, be they grammatical, logical, factual, whatever. And that’s time I could be spending training, or eating, or sleeping, or trying to get laid, or trying to get back into school, or whatever. Prioritizing has never been my strong suit, but it’s something I should be working on and this seems like a decent place to start. Or I’ll continue to get sucked in and you’ll see way more of me. Maybe I’ll even get an avatar.[/quote]
I completely understand. You already know what to do though.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
I need to think/type faster and/or leave this shit alone.[/quote]
Nah, you did good.
[/quote]
Glad you think so, but I spend way too much time proofreading and fact-checking my posts when I get sucked into something like this. I hate posting errors, be they grammatical, logical, factual, whatever. And that’s time I could be spending training, or eating, or sleeping, or trying to get laid, or trying to get back into school, or whatever. Prioritizing has never been my strong suit, but it’s something I should be working on and this seems like a decent place to start. Or I’ll continue to get sucked in and you’ll see way more of me. Maybe I’ll even get an avatar.[/quote]
I completely understand. You already know what to do though.[/quote]
Challenge someone to a front squat competition as a way of getting out?
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
I need to think/type faster and/or leave this shit alone.[/quote]
Nah, you did good.
[/quote]
Glad you think so, but I spend way too much time proofreading and fact-checking my posts when I get sucked into something like this. I hate posting errors, be they grammatical, logical, factual, whatever. And that’s time I could be spending training, or eating, or sleeping, or trying to get laid, or trying to get back into school, or whatever. Prioritizing has never been my strong suit, but it’s something I should be working on and this seems like a decent place to start. Or I’ll continue to get sucked in and you’ll see way more of me. Maybe I’ll even get an avatar.[/quote]
I completely understand. You already know what to do though.[/quote]
Challenge someone to a front squat competition as a way of getting out?[/quote]
For your decision to be correct, my assessment has to be correct. My assessment is correct, so what follows is appropriate.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I am going off memory here but don’t you have an Engineering degree? If you are a freshly degreed engineer look for positions and opportunities that can give you marketable skills aside from what every other fresh graduate has. Machining and PLC programming are two that come to mind right away.
What type of position are you looking for? You would be surprised how many engineers go into it to make cool stuff and they end up being project managers and hating it.[/quote]
I am a Accounting/Information System. I’m trying to get into SQL Developer role/Business Analyst(most entail SQL reporting), Data Analyst type stuff as well.
I have also been applying to Financial Analysts role as well. [/quote]
Man they are hiring BA’s by the truckload right now. They won’t let you go directly into SQL development, but you can get hired as a BA and jump in on more technical projects immediately, which would obviously lead to a promotion in 1-2 years. That’s what I’m doing and others around me have done successfully. If PMs were enabled I could refer you lol[/quote]
Maybe my resume sucks dick IDK. This is annoying too because my moms side of the family is fucking pushing me to move away(i live with my dad) and live with one of my uncles and apply for jobs in that area (Bay Area). I stupidly told them I’d move after 2 months of not finding a job and now they are hounding on me to move. It’s quite annoying, I need to nut up and tell them to fuck off and that I want to stay in SoCal.
Its annoying people telling you what to do.
[quote]Fullback33 wrote:
I am not joking. “Earn a living”? Earn it from who? Really think hard about what earn means. Many many valuable and awesome things should be earned. Not food, shelter or health. All this “work ethic” is bullshit invented by the excessively rich to keep the people who have to “earn” to live in line and as productive as possible. Hard work leading to success is probably a more damaging myth than religion.[/quote]
Even crackheads have to do something to get crack
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Except apples-
[/quote]
And cocoa beans if we’re getting a little outside of the box.[/quote]
You think my Blaze farm just jumped into existence punk!?!
Do you?
I laid ambushes to get at their rods, I stalked slimes at full moon just to get to make sticky pistons, I built a pressure plate trap from the ground up, constantly under fire and now he wants my echanted diamond boots?
Fuck no!
[/quote]
#Herobrine2012.[/quote]
Off topic, but I’m visiting Corpus Christi right now and saw a Kony 2012 sticker on a car yesterday. I haven’t seen one of those since that guys jerkfest last year.
[quote]bam7196 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]bam7196 wrote:
I think Fullback is doing himself a disservice by not stating his implied point more openly. I don’t think that what is being debated is known to everyone speaking. Jmo, but it seems he may not be debating the strategy of life, but instead the rules[/quote]
lol, okay. Please explain how the “rules” of life can be altered so that one doesn’t have to earn their food or housing, yet the population is still free.[/quote]
This is food and shelter; at least in very basic terms. The means of production and sustainability are much, much different than they ever have been before. Yes they still require some human input, elbow grease, whatever you want to call it, but the productivity of a society should no longer be judged on % of population employed if you understand my meaning. If we really wanted to, we would not have to spend our entire lives saddled by debt and the anxiety of money. I mean really, it’s not like the dollars you get paid in are actually worth anything. They are paper, and only that
I can’t help but think that chasing this brass ring all your life is not exactly the existence for which we were intended.
[/quote]
No one has to spend their lives saddled by debt and the anxiety of money. People make bad financial decisions because they feel they have the “right” to nice things and get swindled. I can’t find it but in America a significant percentage of people living below the poverty line own cell phones, cable TV, flat screens, and drive nicer cars than I do. What does giving these people free food and housing do for anyone? In my opinion it encourages them to be more irresponsible with money. It’s nice to see more and more free housing communities that force tenants to take classes on money handling. At least there’s more where I’m at.
I used to think how you did about dollars being worthless. Then I realized that trading goods and services just doesn’t work any more. I guess we could use gold, but who decided gold is worth anything? Things have worth because enough people have faith that it is worth what it’s worth (most confusing sentence ever).
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]bam7196 wrote:
Do you really think that’s what was meant by my post? I just hadn’t considered that some man hours have to go into manufacturing or humans still have to be involved or some “human input, elbow grease, whatever you want to call it” is still required.
The part that apparently went over your head is that the amount of manufacturing that one man can do with a relatively small amount of capital (time) spent making complex, capable and free workers, is so much greater than in the past that there’s no need for a human to do a job that a robot could do, just because they “have to.”[/quote]
No, the point you were trying to make didn’t go over my head, it actually landed quite a few feet in front of me with a feminine thud and didn’t even roll the rest of the way.
While you sit and dream of some utopia society were we can all sit around, smoke our bongs and sing folk tunes while musing on the glory that is life, you ignore the entire fact that SOME people will always have to work. And you can’t expect those SOME people to do it for free, unless you’re advocating the return of slavery on a massive scale.
You can’t have it both ways.
What about personal property. People like to own stuff. What are you going to do about that?
[quote]Im not going to continue to argue anyway. Maybe this wasnt even what Fullback meant. Proceed
[/quote]
No no, please stay. This is like freshman sociology where my professor was a blatant communist. [/quote]
Even communist believe that people have to work. Not sure what you call this.
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I am going off memory here but don’t you have an Engineering degree? If you are a freshly degreed engineer look for positions and opportunities that can give you marketable skills aside from what every other fresh graduate has. Machining and PLC programming are two that come to mind right away.
What type of position are you looking for? You would be surprised how many engineers go into it to make cool stuff and they end up being project managers and hating it.[/quote]
I am a Accounting/Information System. I’m trying to get into SQL Developer role/Business Analyst(most entail SQL reporting), Data Analyst type stuff as well.
I have also been applying to Financial Analysts role as well. [/quote]
Man they are hiring BA’s by the truckload right now. They won’t let you go directly into SQL development, but you can get hired as a BA and jump in on more technical projects immediately, which would obviously lead to a promotion in 1-2 years. That’s what I’m doing and others around me have done successfully. If PMs were enabled I could refer you lol[/quote]
Maybe my resume sucks dick IDK. This is annoying too because my moms side of the family is fucking pushing me to move away(i live with my dad) and live with one of my uncles and apply for jobs in that area (Bay Area). I stupidly told them I’d move after 2 months of not finding a job and now they are hounding on me to move. It’s quite annoying, I need to nut up and tell them to fuck off and that I want to stay in SoCal.
Its annoying people telling you what to do. [/quote]
Resume services are well worth the money, but they still require you put in the footwork. A poor resume does more than not get you the job, it can actually set you back.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I am going off memory here but don’t you have an Engineering degree? If you are a freshly degreed engineer look for positions and opportunities that can give you marketable skills aside from what every other fresh graduate has. Machining and PLC programming are two that come to mind right away.
What type of position are you looking for? You would be surprised how many engineers go into it to make cool stuff and they end up being project managers and hating it.[/quote]
I am a Accounting/Information System. I’m trying to get into SQL Developer role/Business Analyst(most entail SQL reporting), Data Analyst type stuff as well.
I have also been applying to Financial Analysts role as well. [/quote]
Man they are hiring BA’s by the truckload right now. They won’t let you go directly into SQL development, but you can get hired as a BA and jump in on more technical projects immediately, which would obviously lead to a promotion in 1-2 years. That’s what I’m doing and others around me have done successfully. If PMs were enabled I could refer you lol[/quote]
Maybe my resume sucks dick IDK. This is annoying too because my moms side of the family is fucking pushing me to move away(i live with my dad) and live with one of my uncles and apply for jobs in that area (Bay Area). I stupidly told them I’d move after 2 months of not finding a job and now they are hounding on me to move. It’s quite annoying, I need to nut up and tell them to fuck off and that I want to stay in SoCal.
Its annoying people telling you what to do. [/quote]
Resume services are well worth the money, but they still require you put in the footwork. A poor resume does more than not get you the job, it can actually set you back.
[/quote]
Any idea which resume services to choose? And should I go find a individual or find a corporation to do it?
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I am going off memory here but don’t you have an Engineering degree? If you are a freshly degreed engineer look for positions and opportunities that can give you marketable skills aside from what every other fresh graduate has. Machining and PLC programming are two that come to mind right away.
What type of position are you looking for? You would be surprised how many engineers go into it to make cool stuff and they end up being project managers and hating it.[/quote]
I am a Accounting/Information System. I’m trying to get into SQL Developer role/Business Analyst(most entail SQL reporting), Data Analyst type stuff as well.
I have also been applying to Financial Analysts role as well. [/quote]
Man they are hiring BA’s by the truckload right now. They won’t let you go directly into SQL development, but you can get hired as a BA and jump in on more technical projects immediately, which would obviously lead to a promotion in 1-2 years. That’s what I’m doing and others around me have done successfully. If PMs were enabled I could refer you lol[/quote]
Maybe my resume sucks dick IDK. This is annoying too because my moms side of the family is fucking pushing me to move away(i live with my dad) and live with one of my uncles and apply for jobs in that area (Bay Area). I stupidly told them I’d move after 2 months of not finding a job and now they are hounding on me to move. It’s quite annoying, I need to nut up and tell them to fuck off and that I want to stay in SoCal.
Its annoying people telling you what to do. [/quote]
Resume services are well worth the money, but they still require you put in the footwork. A poor resume does more than not get you the job, it can actually set you back.
[/quote]
Any idea which resume services to choose? And should I go find a individual or find a corporation to do it?
[/quote]
I will ask my wife which one she used and get back to you tomorrow.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]bam7196 wrote:
I think Fullback is doing himself a disservice by not stating his implied point more openly. I don’t think that what is being debated is known to everyone speaking. Jmo, but it seems he may not be debating the strategy of life, but instead the rules[/quote]
lol, okay. Please explain how the “rules” of life can be altered so that one doesn’t have to earn their food or housing, yet the population is still free.[/quote]
Stalin managed it pretty well, dude, lay off already, WHAT?!?![/quote]
Cortes knows all about freedom and human rights, brah.[/quote]
Yeah, I’m married with kids. I forfeited all that stuff years ago.
[/quote]
Truth, however if my kids grow up talking like fullback, I will slap the taste out of their mouths. [/quote]
Implying they earned food to taste[/quote]
hahahahah
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I am going off memory here but don’t you have an Engineering degree? If you are a freshly degreed engineer look for positions and opportunities that can give you marketable skills aside from what every other fresh graduate has. Machining and PLC programming are two that come to mind right away.
What type of position are you looking for? You would be surprised how many engineers go into it to make cool stuff and they end up being project managers and hating it.[/quote]
I am a Accounting/Information System. I’m trying to get into SQL Developer role/Business Analyst(most entail SQL reporting), Data Analyst type stuff as well.
I have also been applying to Financial Analysts role as well. [/quote]
Man they are hiring BA’s by the truckload right now. They won’t let you go directly into SQL development, but you can get hired as a BA and jump in on more technical projects immediately, which would obviously lead to a promotion in 1-2 years. That’s what I’m doing and others around me have done successfully. If PMs were enabled I could refer you lol[/quote]
Maybe my resume sucks dick IDK. This is annoying too because my moms side of the family is fucking pushing me to move away(i live with my dad) and live with one of my uncles and apply for jobs in that area (Bay Area). I stupidly told them I’d move after 2 months of not finding a job and now they are hounding on me to move. It’s quite annoying, I need to nut up and tell them to fuck off and that I want to stay in SoCal.
Its annoying people telling you what to do. [/quote]
Resume services are well worth the money, but they still require you put in the footwork. A poor resume does more than not get you the job, it can actually set you back.
[/quote]
Any idea which resume services to choose? And should I go find a individual or find a corporation to do it?
[/quote]
I will ask my wife which one she used and get back to you tomorrow.
[/quote]
She said she will have to dig it up. Sorry, she did not seem to be to hard pressed to find it for anonymous internet guy. I’ll keep pestering her for it.
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]bam7196 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]bam7196 wrote:
I think Fullback is doing himself a disservice by not stating his implied point more openly. I don’t think that what is being debated is known to everyone speaking. Jmo, but it seems he may not be debating the strategy of life, but instead the rules[/quote]
lol, okay. Please explain how the “rules” of life can be altered so that one doesn’t have to earn their food or housing, yet the population is still free.[/quote]
This is food and shelter; at least in very basic terms. The means of production and sustainability are much, much different than they ever have been before. Yes they still require some human input, elbow grease, whatever you want to call it, but the productivity of a society should no longer be judged on % of population employed if you understand my meaning. If we really wanted to, we would not have to spend our entire lives saddled by debt and the anxiety of money. I mean really, it’s not like the dollars you get paid in are actually worth anything. They are paper, and only that
I can’t help but think that chasing this brass ring all your life is not exactly the existence for which we were intended.
[/quote]
No one has to spend their lives saddled by debt and the anxiety of money. People make bad financial decisions because they feel they have the “right” to nice things and get swindled. I can’t find it but in America a significant percentage of people living below the poverty line own cell phones, cable TV, flat screens, and drive nicer cars than I do. What does giving these people free food and housing do for anyone? In my opinion it encourages them to be more irresponsible with money. It’s nice to see more and more free housing communities that force tenants to take classes on money handling. At least there’s more where I’m at.
I used to think how you did about dollars being worthless. Then I realized that trading goods and services just doesn’t work any more. I guess we could use gold, but who decided gold is worth anything? Things have worth because enough people have faith that it is worth what it’s worth (most confusing sentence ever).[/quote]
I wouldnt argue with any of this except maybe the poor financial decisions being based on an assumed “right”. Though that is true it is not universally so. I think most people spend the majority of their days trying to satisfy their place by what they have. If you cant, or are unwilling to, work for that material gain then there may be some unjust aspects of how you go about reaching for it. We consider a lot of crimes Kosher because of transient norms. Not saying its right or its wrong. Taking sides here doesnt really help anybody. Just discussing an alternate angle.
The above being said, I will admit that I can remember Countingbeans being a more rational voice before. I get that you disagree largely but a child could have written your response. Anyway, gone
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
Wake up at 6
Take a shower
Put on work clothes
Drink coffee and eat breakfast
Work 8 hours
If you can’t find something productive to do for 8 hours then I don’t believe you’re actually looking for a job. You could also blame the economy, that seems to be a favorite of unemployed people.[/quote]
Best post.[/quote]
x2.
Also, figure out what you want to do. Where you want to do it. Walk into that place and ask to speak to the manager.
Tell him you will work for him for 3 months for free, the only thing you ask of him is that at the end of three months you get to negotiate to get paid for from that point on.
Go work 40 hours a week for three months, give 100%, and learn. Almost guaranteed you’ll have a full-time job in a non-entry level position in a company. Hell, in this economy I’d even offer to be a contractor at the end of 3 months.
[quote]Fullback33 wrote:
ITT: republicans. I ask, why should a person be obligated to do some boring task for 8 hours a day 5 days a week for the right to eat and sleep under a roof? Why should I or anyone have to “just get a job” that they probably will hate and will in fact make them unhealthier? Blaming the economy for being unemployed is like blaming the nuclear bomb for killing a bunch of Japanese. Which is to say it makes sense.[/quote]
Why should I pay for you to sit in a coffee shop all day? Work is not evil.
[quote]Fullback33 wrote:
I am not joking. “Earn a living”? Earn it from who? Really think hard about what earn means. Many many valuable and awesome things should be earned. Not food, shelter or health. All this “work ethic” is bullshit invented by the excessively rich to keep the people who have to “earn” to live in line and as productive as possible. Hard work leading to success is probably a more damaging myth than religion.[/quote]
I feel like I have been missing my crazy pills reading some of you liberals. Please move to Cuba or Detroit or something.