Look at you, not following the program before you begin. Following a program includes taking the prescribed days off.
I am definitely not a form nazi but…
Form doesn’t look awful but I think it could use some tweaking. I’m not a fan of the rolling reset between reps. On the last rep it looks like the bar is too far out in front of you. Let’s ask @FlatsFarmer
Just doesn’t seem like you are tight enough in the video. Are you using the cue the crush the oranges in your armpits? Push the floor away instead of lifting the bar? Keep the bar tight to your chins and legs?
I’m sorry that the names of the videos are in Cyrillic. But this is not important in this case. Here the burdens are greater.The first is 10 rep Deadlifts and the second 100 kg. Romanian Deadlift
Forget what i said, i love this so much.
Do this. This is awesome.
Looking at this guy in the video, I can say that he doesn’t do anything much different. It just pulls faster.
In general, my DL is a hybrid between the classic and the Romanian.
Otherwise, I haven’t done it often over the years. The ratio is somewhere around 1/10 compared to a Squat or Bench press.
All I am trying to say here is…
If deads are causing you pain, it may be worthwhile to make some adjustments to your training.
Thanks for trying to help me
Performance can always be improved. But if I do something approximately well and still feel pain, I will just stop doing it. One can train without Deadlift, it will not be a big loss. But at the moment I’m ok, despite the not small volume I made a few hours ago. If I have to summarize, I can say that I do not feel pain in any other exercise. Only when I Chin-Up are my tendons a little tense after that. But it passes quickly. After all, I am 49 years old and weigh 105 kg (231 pounds)
Thanks again ![]()
I hear you. I have done machines twice weekly full body each workout for a year, following Dr Darden’s 30-10-30 routine from the “Killing Fat” book. Doing this not til failure with 1-2 reps in reserve will make it both doable and deliver results.
Another new program I am currently following is the Max Muscle Plan 2.0 by Brad Schoenfeld. It contains everything but the kitchen sink in a periodization manner. Heavily based on current science, meaning you can’t go entirely wrong. Obviously you may need to ease on the weights/reps during the strength phase (considering our age). A very good program if you ask me.
It sounds like you are experiencing an incosistency issue. No matter how you put it, you NEED to follow a direction in training, similar to a relationship or a job. What motivation do you need to keep consistency?
Me, I personally stick to a routine/program for at least 6 weeks before evaluating, and make changes in excercises first hand if they cause trouble or not deliver results.
They just opened a new section for videos. Maybe you could post your videos there for more feedback.
Thanks for the suggestion
I don’t worry if I do the exercises with perfect or very good technique. Undoubtedly, there is something to be worked on.
I understand that but, it’s not about having “perfect” form. It’s about trying to help you figure out why you have back pain when you deadlift. You said you have been training for a while, 6 years right? It would be silly to be in pain if you don’t have to if a small tweak to your setup can fix it.
There are some REALLY smart people on here that are willing to help.
In my opinion, the pain is mainly in the muscles around the waist and in most cases it does not hurt. Yesterday I did a Power Clean and I didn’t have any discomfort. And this morning I’m ok. Maybe the reason is that I haven’t warmed my waist and back before. In general, the warm-up before training lasts a maximum of 1-3 minutes. For example, if you are going to perform a Bench Press or a Shoulder Press, I make rotating movements in the shoulders and elbows - 30 repetitions in both directions and that’s it. If I have to do Squats or Deadlifts, I do 10 to the left and 10 to the right turns in the waist, I touch the ground with my hands 5-6 times, I squat 5 times and then I start to put the weights. If I do stretching after a workout, it lasts about 1 minute. I have been doing this for 6 years now and I have no problems anywhere.
No worries, just trying to help. Carry on!
Hex deads a very good alternative I’ve found over the years. Straight bar DL I’d forever twinge my back.
There was an article here about a week ago talking about the deadlift and the arbitrary height everyone lifts from and advises people who struggle with things like lower back pain to experiment with lifting off plates at different ranges of motion. Personally though I say just get the trap bar out. There really is no reason to conventional deadlift at your age, especially if you can bash through a couple sets of RDLs also.
In regards to programming, just do what C.Thib recommends;
Go to gym every other day.
1 main lift a day, 1 accessory lift + 2-3 exercises
Add weight when you reach the top end of the rep range. You could do this with 2-4 sets depending on how much you feel you can handle/recover from.
8-10 reps on all major movements until you stop making progress
6-8 on all major movements until you stop making progress
4-6 on all major movements until you stop making progress
Rinse, repeat.
Depending on your recovery, deload when you finish a phase or two. This hits your strength and hypertrophy needs. You’ll be able to re-run this for a very long time so can stop worrying so much about what program you’re on and just focus on lifting.
The initial and main idea of this topic was not related to my way of training and performing the exercises, but to the problem that my desires and goals are constantly changing. But since, for one reason or another, the question of performing some exercises has also been raised, many users have tried to help and given advice. Thank you very much for that ![]()
I don’t know how useful it is for me, but I don’t have any problems and pains / probably because my strength is small and the weights are not big/ when I train in singles with a weight of 90% of my RM. I can do without a problem /and I did it/ at least 12 repetitions with a break of about 1 minute. At the same time, it is much harder for me to perform SQ and DL in more repetitions. For example, more than 5-6 with a weight of 75-80%. Not that I can’t do these exercises, but singles and doubles with more weight are easier for me. With the BP and the Shoulder Press, I can do both and I no longer feel any difficulty in any of these ways. And when I leave the gym after a workout with singles, many times I feel like I haven’t trained. Well, later in the evening I felt like I was training.
Yesterday I watched again a program of Doug Hepburn from a later stage of his life. There is no pump in it. It consists of 4x1 with about 90% PM, 5x1, 6x1 and so on … until you reach 10x1 and then lift the weight. When you can no longer go from 4x1 to 10x1, go to 4x3 / 80% / until you reach 10x3. As well as there you start to slip again you return to 4–10x1. And so you train for years.
So… what are your current goals?
Haha, a very correct question, given my lack of seriousness in this regard.
In general, I have goals that I constantly follow and I have not stopped doing it. No matter how I train, I think I have followed these goals constantly and achieved them. And they are:
1.To have muscle tension on most muscles, which is caused by lifting weights.
2. To have some physical activity 3-4 days a week, which is caused mainly by lifting weights.
3. To be healthy, to feel good and to have no pain anywhere.
And when we get rid of these things that I’ve listed, my goals are whether to be basically more muscular, whether to be basically stronger, whether to be much lighter, but to be good at street fitness, they are constantly changing. As much as things have to do with achieving these goals, there is still a difference in approach. But the important thing is that I do not stop going to the gym, which has its contribution to these 3 main goals.
Training with singles that aren’t max often feel like less work and are easier to recover from than higher volume workouts. I have a day where I do lots of heavy OHPs singles because I find it doesn’t interfere with the rest of my training in the slightest and helps nail my form down. Some programs even have people learn their new training maxes in their deload weeks.
I’m not gonna sugarcoat this, higher repetitions for squats are deadlifts are hard for pretty much everyone, that’s why you see so many people in the gym not do them. The caveat is that they hit the largest amount of muscle groups, allow you to lift the highest weights and that leads to the greatest CNS response. You have got to learn to love the process and the reward.
If 5-6 rep squats are really that difficult then you need to get better at it. The best gains are made when you learn that things are difficult and you do things to make that not as difficult any more. I’m not talking about almost passing out with failure, i’m talking about a million different things you can do to make 5-6 reps of squat with x amount of weight feel easier.
Absorbing all these different programs and analysing them is a habit you need to break. You are majoring in the minors. I’m guilty of it at times, we all are. This isn’t as complicated as all the information you read will have you believe.