The big blue experience.

Back to the usual routine of workout before work.

Usual walk to gym but really nice weather.

Warm up complex x2 rounds.
Gym really busy with lots of people in the free weights gym but virtualy all doing some variant of curls (must have been international curls day today) except for 1 old guy doing deadlifts !!

So what the old guy did :
Main work ,deadlifts.
Warm up set at 132lbs
1x10 @ 132
1x10 @ 176
1x10 @ 198
5x5 @ 220
Lost count on the 5x5 (noisy and cahaotic) so did an extra set with a tad more weight.
1x4 @ 231lbs

Bench
Couple of waorking sets but still a bit beaten up after the 8x8 the other day, something like
1x10 @66lb
1x10 @88lb
2x5 @110lbs

Did a bit more self learning on the front squat
3x10 @ 66lbs

Finished with some ascending weight lat pull downs paired with press ups.

And so to work…

And so to the end of a working week which by coincidence ended on the end of the week.

Horrible week at work with just too many conflicting demands and not enough ‘bums on seats’.
Not enough sleep either.

Enough moaning !! . End of week workout (slow and heavy…me that is).

Walk to gym, still really nice.
Warm up complex x2.

Main work : squats, mixture of goblet and barbell rear squat mixed in with chins and press ups.
Squats, something like :
Kb 53 lb 1x10
BB 88lb 1x10
Db 70lb 1x10
BB 110lb 1x10
BB 132 lb 1x8
BB 154 lb 1x5
BB 154 lb 1x5
BB 165 lB 1X5 (can’t really claim these as full Rom–probably a 1/2 squat at best but a good try all the same)
Db 70lb 1x10
BB 132 lb 1x10

Stretch and home.
That’s it for the week, second hard week in a row so it’s going to be a very easy and light week next week mainly non weights training, for now really feeling a bit beaten up.

Fork in the road !!.

For a few weeks now i have been pondering whether i need to have a change of direction, was almost going to post this as a question in the q and a thread but then realised that i could simply do a bit more research n reading and come up with the answers myself.

???

Well you see…when i came into all this (fitness, training ,weight loss etc) i certainly didn’t know where i was going…correction i did actually know where i was going and that was very rapidly towards early ill health and so my goals as such were nearly all ‘negatives’ ie didn’t want to be the way i was ie obese, stressed, unfit etc and that is where it all started.
So…18 months in and some 44+ lbs lighter, waist circ down from 42" to around 33 today and feeling a whole heap better…and by the way at least in a beginner sense having become an iron head …felt that it was time for a review and rethink.

I am actually happy with progress on the weights and now that i have a better idea of what i am doing i am happier (more confident) that my basic approach there isn’t too shabby.

The decision or ‘fork’ is that i felt that i had to now make a clear decision on what my emphasis should be ‘right now’ because i have probably got to the point where the beginner gains have slowed down to the point where i can’t support muscle development and get rid of body fat at the same time–or only very very slowly.
So i seem to have fallen into the classic dilemma of trying to do both at once and not really achieving either.

Now…contrary to what most would advise ie build muscle first i have decided that my long term goals are still to get rid of body fat until i am into an athletic category of bf ie around 13-15 % which i suspect will be a lot better for me both in the things that i do now and for my project plans.
Then…after a quick and hard cut of bf (hopefully hanging onto muscle) i can think about about putting on some lean mass but that will need a very smart approach-- so lots of thinking to do about that side.

For now though :
Plan A is cut some bf fast and hard.
Starting weight around 83.9kg (possibly reatining water after nights though)

This weeks plan :
Lifting…just 2 lifting days and 1 conditioning.
Diet…paleo/atkins style induction ie high protein, moderate fat and minimal carbs.
Fat loss strategy. fasted cardio walking every day supported by longer walks every day.

The weeks log (i will keep it all in one post)
Monday.
10.00 Fasted walk 45 minutes
1100. Breakfast ,3 egg ommelette.
1300. Forest trail walk 2 hrs
16.00 Cottage cheese, berries, creme fraiche, banana
17.00 1 tin tuna,2tsp mayo,dressing to taste
18.00 2 x quality burgers. 1 fried onion, dab of chilli chutney
20.00 Chicken drumstick and apple.

Overnight…dumped a whole load of water, peed 4 times in 2 hours.

Tuesday.
10.00 forest walk 1hr 50
12.00 breakfast 3 egg ommelette.
12.30 walk 45 minutes home.
13.00 cottage cheese,creme fraiche, berries,banana,honey
14.00 walk 3–to gym 40 minutes. workout (lifting heavy…deadlift day)
16.30 post workout shake and a couple of dates (fibre)
16.30 walk 4 (home) 1 hr 15 minutes
18.00 1 tin tuna + dressing, dates
1930 i piece fish,1 piece chiken + green leaf salad and ceasar dressing

Overnight…couldn’t settle, still awake at 02, saw 04 on the clock, restless, fidgety and for some reason itching !.

Wednesday.
Late start.
12.00 green tea. straight into fasted walk 1hr 20
13.30 2 egg omelette ,3 slices bacon, coffee, dates.
14.00 heavy rucking session, walk into valley, split some beech and carry out (74lb carry) 1hr 15 (time under load =20)
15.30 1 tin tuna and dressing.
16.00 second heavy rucking session 65lbs over 1hr 40 (1hr 20 load time)
17.30 protein shake in whole milk.
19.00 handful of almonds. main meal of cottage cheese, berries.creme fraiche ,dab of honey.
20.00 evening walk 30min
20.30 evening snack apple and chunk of hard cheese.

Better sleep overnight.
This mornings weight (dry) 82.8kg

Thursday
Late start again but transitioning back into nights so:
10.30 mug of green tea and straight into fasted walk 2hr10.
13.00 breakfast. cottage cheese.banana.berries.creme fraiche.dab of honey (pre work out meal)
13.30 walk to gym 35 minutes and workout ( 2nd lifting day) squat and bench done as pyramids.
16.00 post work out shake, 3 egg ommelette ,dates
16.30 walk home, forest circuit 1hr 20 with light load carry at end (approx 40lb)
16.30 coffee and chick drumstick
18,00 load carry 79lbs 50 minutes.
21.00 dinner (not admitting to what exactly.

Friday. disappointing start, weight has bounced up again (83.4) but might be due to a salty meal last night. More disappointment on our trainer friends magic scales …19.2% hardly any difference from a couple of months ago when it was 19.8% and to be honest that could easily be within measurement error range.
However–it’s a known starting point and it makes me even more convinced that i want to get down to a healthier %-first aim is 15%.

So–friday, and back to work tonight.
Weight on my scale 83.4 and then measured on our trainer friends magic jobby and at 19.2% bf so disappointed with that.
Waist just checked at a tad under 34" but might be a bit bloated after last nights dinner.
however-lesson is take that as a starting point.
Onwards :
11.00 green te/couple of glasses of water and out for a fasted walk 1hr 40
13.00 breakfast .cottage cheese,berries,creme fraiche;dab of honey.
14.00 coffee and cake treat
17.00 2x burgers, tom sauce (home made)
17.00 walk to gym 1hr 20. squat and bwe session (as circuit)
19.15. post work out shake and dates.
21.00 chicken and green leaf salad, dressing.

Overnight–at work running around up and down the hospital so pretty tired hungry and crabby by 0600, instead of going straight through fasted i had to have a small meal.

Saturday :
0600 at work, breakfast of cottage cheese,berries,creme fraiche, honey
Home to sleep.
17.00 up. weight 82.8kg (probably have to take this as end of week weight)

Interesting plan, hope it works out. Be sure to lift at least every week or 2 so you don’t lose your gains.

How much more weight are you trying to lose? How long do you think it will take you to get there?

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Interesting plan, hope it works out. Be sure to lift at least every week or 2 so you don’t lose your gains.[/quote]

Cav… Snaps.
Thanks for looking in.

I have just lifted (heavy) today, in fact i was feeling really positive in the gym and pulled more weight for more reps than before :

Main work= deadlift
Warm up 132 1x10
176lb 1x10
198lbs 1x10

5x5 done as a ‘wave’ :
220 1x5
242 1x5
248 1x5
220 1x5
253 1x5

Secondary work =bench, just a few sets but did specifically push my ‘best for 2 reps’ ie 55kg
Learning work–front squat continues, 4 sets of 10 : 55,66,77 and 88lbs. feeling a bit more comfortable having the bar rammed up against my throat !!.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
How much more weight are you trying to lose? How long do you think it will take you to get there?

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Snaps…
It’s not so much about weight now, i am a whole lot more comfortable being 83kg rather than 105+,it’s simply that i am still carrying an unecasarily high bf content (probably around 20%). I would like to get into the mid teens for body fat and to do that i need to get rid of at least 5-6 pound of fat.
I am going to give it a hard hit through october and then see what i can do about lean mass.

A lot of the thinking about this is all round ‘functional’ fitness–i know a lot of people hate the term but for me ‘functional’ is things like being light/strong and agile–think rock climbing and other outdoor activities eg adventure racing.
To get there i need both less weight and more ‘functional’ strength.

You don’t have to put the weights on the back burner while you lose fat, you can do both at once.

Fat loss is mainly down to fine tuning the diet rather than the type of activity you’re doing.

Just my opinion. Take it for what it’s worth and bear in mind I haven’t had abs since I was 19 and then I looked like Nicole Richie’s skinny little brother!

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
You don’t have to put the weights on the back burner while you lose fat, you can do both at once.

Fat loss is mainly down to fine tuning the diet rather than the type of activity you’re doing.

Just my opinion. Take it for what it’s worth and bear in mind I haven’t had abs since I was 19 and then I looked like Nicole Richie’s skinny little brother![/quote]

Brett, thanks.
Be assurred that weights will still be right at the centre of the ‘main effort’.

Lifting just twice this week is mainly due to having lifted 4 times both weeks for the last 2 and with the combination of a horrible work week (and lack of sleep) so this week had to be a planned easier one.
This week so far (today) i have actually had one of my best lifting sessions ever having just pulled more weight over more reps than ever before.

Regarding fat loss and activity…i would like to respectfully disagree , in my opinion (again–could be wrong) that some activity works better (at least for me) than do others.
For me, what definitely worked at the beginning of this whole deal was simply going walking…now with a bit more knowledge of why that might be the case ie fasted state/lypolytic pathway i am hitting that one hard with an overnight fast going straight into a fasted walk.

It is also probably just me playing to my (few) strengths namely that i can chuck on a ruck, head out there and crank out the miles…and actually enjoy doing same whereas ‘cardio’ at the gym bores the tits off me.

Jezus, how did you get so strong? It took me ages to DL 250 for reps.

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Jezus, how did you get so strong? It took me ages to DL 250 for reps.[/quote]

Doesn’t strike me as being ‘strong’ by the standards of the guys around here !!.
In my defence the guy who taught me the basics thought that i would develop a good deadlift but my long levers would always hinder my bench–so far seems to be spot on.

[quote]big nurse wrote:
Chuffed !!.[/quote]

Wow. Twice in one month!

[quote]big nurse wrote:
Just plain roog at the end.
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WTF!?!?!?

Well good for you on the PRs. And I have some opions on the fat loss angle (of course).

I did the exact same weightlifting program when I was bulking as I was when I was cutting. The only difference between each period was the diet. And I did no (repeat NO) cardio of any kind. I bulked up to 200lb and 16%, and then dieted away 30 lb of fat and water and got down to 6%. I agree with Brett that diet is king. If you do some math, an hour of walking has the same calories as 4 Oreo cookies.

That being said, I think you can be very successful including the walking to hepl accelerate fat loss. As long as the diet in nailed down, it wil certainly help. And you won’t lose an once of muscle provided you continue to lift heavy. Your energy levels may suck, but you must keep lifting.

As long as the scale is moving in the right direction, you’re golden. If things slow down or stall, I recommend you target your cottage cheese/fruit meal and turn it into a lean protein/vegetable meal. There’s a lotta carbs packed into an ounce of fruit.

Good luck!

Kent thanks for the input.

That particular meal (cottage cheese/fruit) is really intended as the pre workout meal, fruit by the way is blueberries mainly on non workout days (banana is mainly for pre workout fuel-up).
I havn’t, to be fair ,ever posted my normal diet and to be honest there is usually quite a bit of fast carbs in there so this is a cleaned up version for me.

Oh—ROOG… ran out of gas !!

Actually chuffed x 3 as today pulled a bit more weight for more reps in the deadlift.

Only real energy slump so far was in taking on one of the longer hills in the fasted circuit, where normally i can step on the gas and crank up the pace on ascents it was just a bit harder to increase pace today.

Once again though this goes back to my early exeperience of getting rid of weight last year, walking lots was the main effort, walking now in a fasted state (i believe) should hit that slow lypolytic pathway.

Next week i will add in some hiit as well.
Do remember though that this is only going to be a few weeks of deliberate fat loss and then it’s back to ‘normal’.

Much more interesting will be the attempt to add lean mass–i suspect will be a much longer job.

EDIT… after further thought.
Yes…diet…i have i feel made a classic beginner mistake in that so far i have almost exclusively thought ‘training’ rather than diet+training+ recovery and apart from a major clean up at the start of this whole thing have rather ignored it all.
To be fair i did pull back a long way from my appalling dietary habits and there has been a shed load to learn just about the exercise.
So posting the diet seems like a really positive move …makes me think about it a lot more and already is getting lots of feedback.

Thanks again.

It isn’t strong by the standards of the other guys, but I never pretended to be another Dave Tate. Point is, you’re catching up to my level after only a few months, and it took me years to get there. But - you’ve had good advice every step of the way there. That made a lot of difference.

Roog?? Chuffed??? Sigh - back to my British - English dictionary . . .

[quote]big nurse wrote:

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Jezus, how did you get so strong? It took me ages to DL 250 for reps.[/quote]

Doesn’t strike me as being ‘strong’ by the standards of the guys around here !!.
In my defence the guy who taught me the basics thought that i would develop a good deadlift but my long levers would always hinder my bench–so far seems to be spot on.
[/quote]

Same here BN, long monkey arms. Decent deads suck bench. Keep working hard, you’ll get where you want, hell you’re probably not out of newbie gains yet. LUCKY!!!

[quote]dday wrote:

[quote]big nurse wrote:

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Jezus, how did you get so strong? It took me ages to DL 250 for reps.[/quote]

Doesn’t strike me as being ‘strong’ by the standards of the guys around here !!.
In my defence the guy who taught me the basics thought that i would develop a good deadlift but my long levers would always hinder my bench–so far seems to be spot on.
[/quote]

Same here BN, long monkey arms. Decent deads suck bench. Keep working hard, you’ll get where you want, hell you’re probably not out of newbie gains yet. LUCKY!!![/quote]

Ha !! you and me both eh !.

Let me recount a true story about this.

Years ago when i was really into my offshore yacht racing i was BN on a 1 tonner–we had the local club championship and series in our sites and as part of our turn-out decided to have crew sweaters made for all 7 regular crew.

Anyway we found a lady who either could knit very fast or had a machine and sent her the measurements of the crew, if i remember , things like chest, torso length, arm length etc.

Well they all got made except mine because she couldn’t believe my measurements–she actually phoned the owner and is quoted as saying (welsh lady i believe) " what is he …a gorilla or baboon boyo".

So of course in the days where winch winders were affectionally known as either gorillas (knuckle draggers) i of course became the crew ‘monkey’–didn’t help that my job had me up and down the mast regularly !!.

good stuff BN. I take it your back is feeling better.

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
good stuff BN. I take it your back is feeling better.[/quote]

Seem to be having a good couple of weeks so using the ‘good time’ to the max.
Heavy rucking session x2 today.
Cheers

“Monkey boy” - LOL!!

Keep up the good work!

The days work ends.

Last load of about 250lbs total up and out of the valley.

60lbs wet beech log in the ruck and 24 (dryer oak) in the arms…very wet unseasonned wood.

Off to drop this weeks booty off with my fiends with the woodstove.