[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
I will never understand how someone can legitimately classify a fetus as inhuman goop whose murder is simply medical termination.
Abortion will always be the easy road out of responsibility and is an act of the most selfish order possible.
If there is an afterlife, where people are “made whole”, I sincerely hope mothers who kill their babies come face to face with their children and are forced to acknowledge the life never lived due to the inconvenience it would’ve caused. [/quote]Why do you believe this?
[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
I will never understand how someone can legitimately classify a fetus as inhuman goop whose murder is simply medical termination.
Abortion will always be the easy road out of responsibility and is an act of the most selfish order possible.
If there is an afterlife, where people are “made whole”, I sincerely hope mothers who kill their babies come face to face with their children and are forced to acknowledge the life never lived due to the inconvenience it would’ve caused. [/quote]Why do you believe this?
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You will have to be more specific but I will tell you I’m not going to jump in to a circular argument full of semantics to explain away simple logic.
A human is a human be it a fetus, an infant, toddler, pre-teen et cetera, developmental levels aside.
Killing a human because you simply don’t want it around is selfish in the literal definition of the word and that is all there is to it.
[quote]CargoCapable wrote:<<< A human is a human be it a fetus, an infant, toddler, pre-teen et cetera, developmental levels aside.
Killing a human because you simply don’t want it around is selfish in the literal definition of the word and that is all there is to it.[/quote]I couldn’t possibly agree more. I was just wondering what you base this on. Personal opinion? It’s a good one if it is. I’m jist askin.
Yeah but more like personal fact I guess. When you cut the bull, you have a very simple equation regardless of which side of the fence you’re on.
The real debate is where the line for selfish action should be legally drawn as there is no way to legitimately justify abortion as anything other than selfish murder. The obfuscation around the issue is simply criminal at best. Aiding and abetting.
Again. I agree. It IS sick. AND monumentally selfish as you say. It just seems that you find it personally repugnant and are leaving it at that as far as an explanation is concerned. That’s not much of a case against somebody who sees it as some kind enlightened “right”.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Again. I agree. It IS sick. AND monumentally selfish as you say. It just seems that you find it personally repugnant and are leaving at that a far as an explanation is concerned. That’s not much of a case against somebody who sees it as some kind enlightened “right”. [/quote]
They know it is selfish too. That fact can’t be debated.
The “right” they talk about is in regards to how accepting society should be of their selfishness. Unfortunately the force of the law dictates this for better or worse but the point I’m making is that the act itself is a repugnantly selfish murder and if someone wants to wipe that guilt under their own rug of a conscience that is their demon to wrestle, but it is what it is no matter how much bullshit they cover it in.
[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
I will never understand how someone can legitimately classify a fetus as inhuman goop whose murder is simply medical termination.
Abortion will always be the easy road out of responsibility and is an act of the most selfish order possible.
If there is an afterlife, where people are “made whole”, I sincerely hope mothers who kill their babies come face to face with their children and are forced to acknowledge the life never lived due to the inconvenience it would’ve caused. [/quote]Why do you believe this?
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You will have to be more specific but I will tell you I’m not going to jump in to a circular argument full of semantics to explain away simple logic.
A human is a human be it a fetus, an infant, toddler, pre-teen et cetera, developmental levels aside.
Killing a human because you simply don’t want it around is selfish in the literal definition of the word and that is all there is to it.[/quote]
That’s a good enough argument for me, secular or otherwise.
[quote]CargoCapable wrote:
I will never understand how someone can legitimately classify a fetus as inhuman goop whose murder is simply medical termination.
Abortion will always be the easy road out of responsibility and is an act of the most selfish order possible.
If there is an afterlife, where people are “made whole”, I sincerely hope mothers who kill their babies come face to face with their children and are forced to acknowledge the life never lived due to the inconvenience it would’ve caused. [/quote]Why do you believe this?
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You will have to be more specific but I will tell you I’m not going to jump in to a circular argument full of semantics to explain away simple logic.
A human is a human be it a fetus, an infant, toddler, pre-teen et cetera, developmental levels aside.
Killing a human because you simply don’t want it around is selfish in the literal definition of the word and that is all there is to it.[/quote]
That’s a good enough argument for me, secular or otherwise.
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[quote]therajraj wrote:
Might as well stop the discussion if you need non secular arguments to make your point[/quote]
Oh wait so as long as the arguments stem from your world view and not others makes them valid?[/quote]
Who are you trying to convince in this thread? Christians or non-Christians?
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What does that matter? Are you saying that non-Christians cannot value human life? That’s an odd thing to think.
He can, he’s on pretty solid ground.[/quote]
Typically non-xians are pro-choice. Tailor your arguments to your audience [/quote]
That’s a ridiculousness proposition. I don’t tailor arguments to anyone. It’s just plain fact, and bottom line, so far every pro-abortionist on this thread admitted it’s murder, but for some weird reason, that’s still ok.[/quote]
Welp, you might as well refer to god in arguments as Forbes did.
Since tailoring your arguments to convince a certain audience is ridiculous and all.
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I don’t need to refer to God. Either you agree it’s murder or your don’t. Then it’s a matter of whether you think murder is wrong or not. It’s that simple. Based on scientific fact there is nothing else it could be. If you can fine me a peer reviewed scientific that says that the in-utero being is other than a human life I will eat my hat.
Second, your claim of tailoring is just away to dodge the argument at hand.