[quote]Reed wrote:
Can I ask why you even made this thread? If all you were going to do was tell every person who tried to help to go fuck them selves, fuck their opinions, and advice even though they know substantially more than you? If you were just going to do your own cycle no matter how many people told you that you need to wait and learn to train and eat why even waste your time writing this?[/quote]
you see it all the time in every aspect of your life. People only ask for advice in the hope it’ll validate what they’ve already decided to do.
I’m not telling everyone to go fuck themselves. What works for someone might not work for the other person. Everyone is different. I’m listening to my body. I’m holding very little water and like I said I’m up to 200lbs and about to start week 8. To the guys who have sent advice, thank you, I appreciate it. And like I said, after pct if I drop back down to around 175lbs I’ll be right here saying you guys were right. But let me ask you this, after pct if I level out at around 205lbs what are y’all going to say then?
[quote]Troyk1 wrote:
I’m not telling everyone to go fuck themselves. What works for someone might not work for the other person. Everyone is different. I’m listening to my body. I’m holding very little water and like I said I’m up to 200lbs and about to start week 8. To the guys who have sent advice, thank you, I appreciate it. And like I said, after pct if I drop back down to around 175lbs I’ll be right here saying you guys were right. But let me ask you this, after pct if I level out at around 205lbs what are y’all going to say then? [/quote]
we’d have no proof, so we’d probably not believe you, nor would we care enough to press the issue
Not going to fuck off. That’s funny how some off you guys want to talk shit about my diet and how I don’t know how to train but when I ask what you will say when the results stick after pct, you don’t have an answer
But you don’t know how to train and diet. If you did, you wouldn’t look like your before pic. If you purport to have been be lazy before, then you’re simply setting a bad example for others at your level.
No one wants to see you fail. Just as much we don’t want to see someone who has not proven to love this lifestyle enough to have forth the required dedication to achieve his goals put an unnecessary risk on his long term health by making the decision to use steroids as a crutch for temporary gains.
I am surprised you are not mature enough to understand this.
In any case, I told you to post your results “2 months after PCT”. Steroids work. Any idiot can shovel food in his mouth and gain weight. Your knowledge and ability to maintain the required dicipline to retain what you’ve built is what is in question.
[quote]Troyk1 wrote:
Wouldn’t the proof be in the pics? [/quote]
I would emphatically say yes to this. I don’t think whatever your scale says really matters, unless you’re competing in something that involves weight classes. Your pictures will say everything that needs to be said. I think taking a couple pictures on the last day of your cycle, then a couple more a few months later is a superb idea.
For myself, I’ve added 100 lbs to my squat, and 50+ on deadlift and bench, without actually gaining any weight at all. The first time I squatted 400, I weighed around 192. That’s what I weighed this morning, and I’ve squatted 500 now. And my physique looks much different as well. I’ve posted pics in my rate my photos thread, for reference.