RT_Nomad:
I would like to hear @tareload feedback here.
By 1980 at the end of my AAS cycles, I would use HCG and Clomid in an attempt to reestablish my normal testosterone level, if I could get access to both. If not I would use one or the other, unless I could get neither, then… oh well.
If I ended my AAS cycle at the end of week 12 (I ran 12 week cycles for the targeted contest of that year), I would start HCG at the beginning of week 14, at 1cc every other da y, lasting 20 days. Here the HCG was stimulating my testicles to produce testosterone. But it was my thought that just as the testosterone feedback would stop my natural production of luteinizing hormone, so would HCG stop it. Then at day 21 after HCG started (and ended on day 20), I would start about 2 weeks of Clomid to kick start my pituitary gland to produce luteinizing hormone.
The hope of all this was to put my system back to normal hormone levels. I never did blood tests, so who knows.
Looks like a reasonable HPTA restart approach. That was 1000 IU per CC? Impressive you had this level of knowledge even back then. You still see protocols promoting using HCG and SERMs together at the same time in some circles (incorrect). I shared my thoughts here (and a couple of posts before and after):
There are lots of flavors out there including Defy’s various protocols and how they have evolved…AI, clomid, enclomiphene, etc…
RE: hCG…To your point, if you look at one of their later versions with the kitchen sink…
Discontinue testosterone
Start 300 IU hCG daily for 2 weeks
Stop hCG, start 25 mg enclomiphene daily for 6 weeks
0.125 mg anastrozole three times per week during both hCG and enclomiphene
Stop everything, followup labs with CBC, TT, FT E2, LH, SHBG, PRL
I wanted to see if i co…
My recent experience and results after going off TRT:
My very complex “PCT” / recent experience. Shut down 4 years on injectable T.
Almost back to baseline after 12 weeks off T and 8 weeks off hCG. Time is your friend but may be a rough couple months.
I hope you recover. Do you have baseline blood work prior to AAS use?
I would start the hCG and run for at least 4 weeks after you have washed out the exogenous T.