Cream has been solid for me no issues at all. I’ve used both the versa base and Atrevis base from MedQuest. On cream I have more libido and feel a bit more energy. That said injections twice a week are very easy and also work for me. I just hate the needles LOL
I can only see Gel or injection form for sale at pharmacies.
Is the cream off from the normal pharmacy route ? Or perhaps a manipulated form of a Gel ?
The creams are mixed at compounding pharmacies to prescriptions. The max strength that can be suspended in the cream is 200 mg/ml, and one ‘pump’ is about 50ml of cream. I am starting with once daily, but will likely move to twice after endogenous T (TT @ 450) is stopped and expended.
@fiddleback1 is your dosage the same as you described over a year ago ? Glad to hear you’re stable and solid.
Oh, I thought It would be sold and could be prescribed just like any other drug by a doctor. Just like “Testim Gel”.
It can, you just have to use a compounding pharmacy to supply it
More expensive, probably ?
Not at all. Creams purchased at compounding pharmacy are typically significantly cheaper than name brand gels such as Androgel and Testim and work much better.
Gels are made by large prescription drug companies so they put patents on them making them more expensive. Compounding pharmacies do not patent their creams, keeping the cost significantly lower versus gels.
That´s quite interesting. I just don´t know any compounding pharmacy around here.
So I suppose we´re talking about bio-identical testosterone, I mean, just the hormone without any ester.
I don’t think the creams include an ester, but that doesn’t make it bio-identical or not.
Well, my question was if the compounding cream has the exact same molecule as the so called bio-identical gel : Testosterone (itself only) C19H28O2
For instance, testosterone cypionate is C27H40O3
IMO, all testosterone is synthetic. All made in lab (regardless of raw materials). I don´t know what is the criteria to call it bio-identical (formula or raw material source?)
So the question comes to the final testosterone formula. C19H28O2 is what we apprently produce naturally, so should it this be what we find in the cream ?
I understand what you’re saying, but once that Cyp ester is cleaved off in serum we’ve got the same test that our body would have created on its own. My guess would be the creams don’t have an ester attached so they can start working right away.
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So, basically they´re only testosterone. Just like the Gel. Not sure if the Gel works, but my doctor said that TRT (the TRT concept for him) was made using bio-identical T from gel.
I made the labs but haven´t showed them to him yet. I think I need another appointment just to make a few more questions and one of them is to know if micro-dosing injectable T could be an option which I got the impression it was not.
In my country, I can only see Sustanon, Enanthate, and Nebido for sale as injectable forms.
Hi new here, I’m started on the 6% cream, at 25 mg per pump, is this similar?