Hey guys, I’m figuring out my second cycle in a month and I’m thinking about doing test and tbol. I have a few questions. I want a nice clean lean gains and don’t want to deal with deca sides so thats off the table. Masteron will eat my hairline so thats out of the question. Primo is too expensive lol. Anavar is a bit expensive BUT if you guys think its better than tbol I’ll go for it. Too nooby for tren. No EQ because I already have anxiety issues. Tbol looks really good for my goals.
Do you guys think 40mg tbol for 6 weeks is good, could I push 7 weeks? What about anavar? I’ve done rad140 and I liked it but its not really researched and kind of sketchy imo. I’m doing 500mg test with it. What do you guys think? Whats your experiences with tbol and anavar?
That’s exactly what I’m running right now but I’m only on week 3. Test 500mg first (4) weeks and tbol 40mg/test last (6) weeks. I’ve only ran tbol once but I loved it. The gains were all ‘solid’ without the bloated look you get on dbol. Test still bloats me a up a bit but it is what it is.
I don’t like running orals for an extended period of time so I keep mine to (6) weeks due to their effect on lipids and liver values. I do not like making recommendations but I’m doing this exact cycle as I feel its a decent ‘value’ without being overly risky.
I have run both tbol (love it, only actual steroid with scientific proof that strength gains last after you stop using) and anavar.
As far as which one will you get better gains with, I really think that is dependent on how your body reacts to each one. You could just simply react better to one or the other. If you react well to each one then I think the over all gains are going to be comparable. So I know you are looking for an answer to which one will help you get more gains but really it’s a toss up in my opinion.
If your looking for a reason to pick one over the other, pick tbol. Anavar is just to iffy about weather you will get actual anavar or if it is actually properly doses. Since so much of the faked/substituted anavar is done with winstrol (stanozolol) I feel any and every new guy should try the winstrol first. They never really fake winstrol and it’s usually properly doses. You are still in that window of finding and developing a good solid source. Once you have found a source with good testosterone then try the other common less expensive compounds. My thought process is even if they have good test it doesn’t mean they have good anavar BUT if their test is shit then who knows what you get in the packet labeled “anavar?” So once you find good test explore the other less expensive compounds before you spend the money to try the top shelf of cost.
So given your thoughts on other compounds I really think tbol is the overall better choice for you at this stage of your journey. There really isn’t anything they can substitute tbol with. Yes it is not a low cost compound but it isn’t the top tier of cost like anavar and primobolan. So it’s a better chance you will get properly doses tbol vs anavar. Go with the safer bet right now.
As far as your hair line and all that, are all the men on your mother’s side of the family bald as can be? Another selling point of winstrol, if you wanted to try one of the compounds more prone to promoting hair loss, as a way to guage your succeptability then winstrol would be the way to go. If you saw any hair loss you could stop using it and within hours it would be out of your system. Orally it’s half life is listed as 9 hours when used as an injectable it’s half life if 24 hours.
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I can get anavar prescribed. I’ve tried Winstrol and I know exactly how shitty it makes me feel and thankfully I didn’t lose any hair. I gained a fuck ton of strength just felt like crap on it. Say it’s legit Anavar vs Tbol and you react good with both. Not considering price or any of that either. You have both on hand and can only choose one which would it be and why?
If I am gaining, tbol. If I am trying to cut and will be on a restricted diet, anavar.
Tbol is test based and even though it doesn’t aromatize it is known for gaining size and strength, not massive gains but legit quality gains. Usually compounds that aromatize are known for gaining. Another odd selling point for tbol is it’s anabolics to Androgenic rating is 54 to 6 but a lot of charts read 0. So it’s basically all anabolic with no Androgenic characteristics. I personally dont understand this because the east Germans used it in their Olympics doping program and those women definitely showed signs associated with Androgenic sides.
Anavar is dht based and even though you do or can gain on it what it is known for in the body building community is how handy it is for busting through strength plateaus. It is also known for giving you this tight skin look. Although you can and will gain on it, it’s not known for good gaining except with women. Guys do gain it’s just not gobs of it.
I have to put this in here because some one will chime in with it like I was saying something contrary. All AAS compounds will help gaining and cutting, it just some do one or the other better. Really we ultimately control this with diet. But again some are better at one or the other.
If you didn’t loose hair on winstrol then why are you so worried about masteron making the hair fall out? Winstrol and masteron are both dht based, just like anavar. Usually if you are going to loose hair its on dht’s, there might be one that makes it fall out more but all of them should do it to some extent of you are succeptible to it.
Out of curiosity where do you live that a doctor will just prescribe anabolics like this? (I am not above moving)
If you have anxiety issues tren is a hell of a lot worse than EQ
Interestingly there is scientific proof showing that whilst strength gains from anavar may not last (in geriatric/middle aged scenarios absent of regular exercise)… the effect on visceral fat mass (a vitally important cardiometabolic risk factor) IS long lasting, can link a pretty cool 20 week study on this if you’re interested (I’ll do it anyway)
I was born in Lafayette but from 6-16 I was in the suburbs of Houston then we moved to Slidell. I got my degree at Tech in Ruston then I used Lafayette as my home base while I was with the Guard and working as a landman. About three years ago I moved out to Arizona. I miss the food, boudin, dirty rice, shit rice and gravy, stuffed chicken, wild duck, crawfish, jambalaya, gumbo (actual gumbo from South of I-10 not soup with rice in it), boiled shrimp…fuck I’m hungry just thinking. I ran out of my NuNu’s like the first month I got here, my brother brought me some more and I was able to make it last over a year but I ran out of that over a year ago. I still have some slap ya momma’s but it’s not the same as NuNu’s.
I didn’t even think about those anti aging clinics. When I was still there everyone I knew was just getting stuff from overseas through the internet aka illegally. What does a bottle of test cyp 200 or test enanthate 250 cost you through the clinics?
What’s “shit rice”… it doesn’t sound particularly appealing from the description of those two words put together. It could either be describing rice that’s of low quality or something far… far worse
I guess some people are into that though. My cousin (14 at the time) showed me a video (bout a year ago now) called two girls one cup… I’d known of the video before, but had never seen it… 1/10 would not watch again, the one star exists because for the first three seconds or so you’ve got a girl on girl makeout scene
Sorry I meant “shit, rice and gravy” like damn even plain old rice and gravy. It’s a common enough dish all over the south but Louisiana has its own version and South Louisiana is even more distinct. I mean who would miss rice and gravy but once you have a bowl from South of I-10 you will look at it a whole different way.
Rice is such a stable back home that they go and gmo some crazy strains like popcorn flavor and pecan flavor. Then there are the colored version like literally purple rice!
GMO isn’t the healthiest to be eating long term. The long term effective of such chemical additives aren’t entirely known, however it garner they aren’t great. We eat GMO food all the time though… look at corn, it’s unfortunate as we haven’t the slightest idea as to what the neurological, endocrine effects etc are
However pecan plavoured sounds delicious!!! I’d be totes down for that, I’ll see if I can import some to my PO box or something
The situation with corn is sad. My father always had a vegetable garden growing while I was growing up. I remember all of a sudden the corn changed and got noticably sweeter so the next year we went looking for the “old” seeds and found them at this farmers market out in the country. We did that for two years and had normal corn then there was no more normal corn anywhere. Then years later all of a sudden it goes from the traditional yellow to this “silver.” With traditional corn the under developed kernels were the whiteish color and now with this silver sweet corn all the kernels look like that color. They taste I guess the way they are supposed to but for someone who grew up eating the old traditional corn the whole thing looks under developed or not ripe. Don’t even get going on the flavor. We as a society should really be looking at ourselves when we find ways to make vegetables grow sweet, like we don’t already get enough sugar and corn syrup. And I know corn is a grain really and definitely a starch so calling it a vegetable is a stretch but still.
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Woah small world! Louisiana is such an amazing place. It’s like it’s own little world. I just moved back a few months ago from NYC so it’s all fresh for me.
I’m prescribed 220mg/week compounded cypionate/enanthate (mostly cyp). I pay $150/month. The clinic is actually not in Louisiana but it’s all via telemedicine.