So looks like you’re good to go. What is your final stategy?
I think ill run 40mg, unless anyone thinks thats too much?
I mean your complete cycle? Test, Tren, & dbol. 40 mg/d won’t kill you. I suggest 30mg/d if it’s your first go round with dbol since it can cause back pumps in some people more than others. 30mg/d gave me lots of power gains, feeling of well being, lots of mass and unfortunately significant back pumps and moonface to a degree.
I was so concentrated about the research about test n tren and adjusting everything, i never paid enough attention to dianobol thinkining its just something small.
Has anyone tryed magnesium and calcium to help the pumps? shoudl i down the dose to 20-25mg? would that help get the similar results?
my final cycle that i decided to do is
6 weeks 50mg test, 100mg test. and what was 40mg of d-bol, but i might just slow that one down and just have some left over.
Does front load work with d-bol?
[quote]T-Beast wrote:
I was so concentrated about the research about test n tren and adjusting everything, i never paid enough attention to dianobol thinkining its just something small.
Has anyone tryed magnesium and calcium to help the pumps? shoudl i down the dose to 20-25mg? would that help get the similar results?
my final cycle that i decided to do is
6 weeks 50mg test, 100mg test. and what was 40mg of d-bol, but i might just slow that one down and just have some left over.
Does front load work with d-bol? [/quote]
No need to frontload dbol. It has a very short half life and will reach beneficial levels quickly enough. The dose is going to be up to you. If you have enough to run 40 for as long as you’d like then do that. If the back pumps start screwing with your workouts then lower it.
Personally, I get serious back pumps (while squatting and overhead pressing mostly) and horrible calf pumps (just from walking) at 30mg day spread out; my point is that no one will know how much you should take besides you.
Bobez got it right. You can always lower the dose and your blood level will very quickly reflect that.
I got back pumps mainly from RDL and reverse hypers. I substituted glute-ham raise and that helped to aleviate it. Some people don’t get pumps at all. Trial & error.
You listed test twice in outlining your final cycle plan and omitted tren. Can you list it again?
I am sorry, confused them
6 weeks 50mg test, 100mg tren.
i will start with 40mg of d bol a day, probably will lower dpeneds on the feedback i get from my body, i do long hours of work so ill be able to spread out the dosages. I ahve a few guestions
Thibs OVT, it is good for while you are on gear?
and also
WHen it comes to injecting the gear, pre workout is what i used to do. Last cycle i did the following order
stretch get warmed up
Myofacial release
inject, wait a few mintues set up the workout
then lift.
is this same thing good or should i change it? thanks guys.
If that’s when you like to inject, then sure. It definitely will not make a difference in your workout though.
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
I found 30mg/d dbol is lots for me. GOod luck with your cycle. [/quote]
and to show you the contrast,I found 40mg 2 x a day to be spot on for me.
Play with the d’bol dose because there’s alot of variables but watch your reaction. they can be very subtle
but yes 30mg a day is a good average dose.
ok. what about the training part. what do you think.
I have no idea. I’ve never used a ‘popular’ routine before so I can’t make any recommendations.
ok. General view, is Volume training best for results on gear?
I cant do the poerlifting routine i did a few years back because of my back and Nate Green pointed me to thibs workouts…
to get rid of back pumps if they do come i read ina few places that aromatase inhibitor is used, such i start light dose nolva while on cycle if i do exhibit terrible sides (not if they are manageable)
[quote]T-Beast wrote:
to get rid of back pumps if they do come i read ina few places that aromatase inhibitor is used, such i start light dose nolva while on cycle if i do exhibit terrible sides (not if they are manageable) [/quote]
nolvadex is not an aromatase inhibitor. I’ve never heard that an AI will relieve back pumps either. Where did you read that, I’d like to check it out.
i cant find it now, but it was either elitefitness blog thingie or meso rx (which im not a part of either) just doing research.
i jsut kind of went onto a googling spree and that what i found, thats why i asked here.
ill just see where the cycle takes me. and will adjust as necessary. worrying abotu a pump is nothing right now.