I’ll be fine, i’ll just up my dose to .5 EOD. Like i said i may also be over reacting. I just figured it’s somewhat normal to show a little bit of puffiness on cycle… i can’t wait for my shit to kick in full swing… will test eth/cyp give you an extra vasculinity edge if you keep a lean diet going or would i need to throw in a winny/var towards the end?
yea agreed. was just giving a heads up of another possibility…
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
yea agreed. was just giving a heads up of another possibility…[/quote]
Your suggestion wasn’t bad. It could be underdosed or bunk altogether but .5 EOD is the usual recommended dosage. It could just be too low. Either way bump to .5 and watch the nips. That is certainly something to be concerned about.
I took .75mg yesterday and had less puffiness when i woke up this morning, from here on out i plan on dropping it to .5 EOD. Thanks for the advice. The good news is that i’ve gained 4 lbs since 7/6! I’m taking pictures every 3 weeks of the cycle so once i get a 3rd week comparison i’ll post it up to show progress. Thanks again for everyones advice/help it goes a long way expecially when it’s your first cycle.
i would like to know how much you gain and keep at the end of ur cycle… keep posting.
btw your taking dbol right forgot you added it… with dbol you would need 0.5 eod… stick with it now…
how are you strength gains with dbol and is ur appetite up yet ?
any side effects as of yet ?
To be honest i haven’t taken the dbol yet, i can’t decide if i want to or not. I wanted to feel the effects of solely test eth/cyp for my first run. Although, i haven’t ruled the dbol out yet so if i do add it it will be in the next 2 weeks tops @ 30mg a day for weeks 3-7 for a little boost (I’m on week 2 right now @ 1,000mg of test eth thus far). I honestly haven’t had any serious changes yet. Although i did gain 4 lbs in the past 2 weeks (might be from the creatine i added) and i have felt an increased libido ( I have to rub off 3 times a day at work).
Also, my new plan is to add a cutting component at the mid-end of my cycle. I need input on weather to go with oral Winny or oral Var, at what does, and ran at what weeks of the cycle? Also if i began with a 3800 calorie a day diet for the majoirty of my bulk/test should i drop it to maybe around 3,000 calories a day towards the end if i try to cut with a oral agent or no? ( I understand cardio & diet account for most of the plan ).
neways in a week or two your gonna have ur test kicking in… so fk the dbol…
Ya i guess so… although the more the merrier. I just hear that Dbol brings about heavy estrogen related side effects that can sometimes pass through a middle dosed AI. With this being said i would rather leave it out for now than have to up more Adex to run Dbol. That’s just putting to much crap in my body at this time lol…
yes to a biologically more active form of estrogen ,l7alpha methylestradiol…
Well, i decided to add Dbol and am going to have it by day end. I’m currently running Adex at .5 EOD. If i add Dbol to the mix which i was made aware will increase my estrogen production by a lot, should i replace my .5 EOD of Adex with possibly a stronger dose of Letro? My theory behind this is that i heard Letro is a more potent AI? Please correct me if i’m wrong. So my cycle will look like the below for the most part…
Weeks 1-12 Test Eth/Cyp @ 500mg/WK
Weeks 3-6 Dbol @ 30mg/ED (Deciding if i want to add this ass i’m going into week 3 in a couple days.
Weeks 1-14 Adex .5 EOD (may replace with letro if Dbol is added)
PCT:
Weeks 14-17 Nolva 40/40/20/20.
HCG (Is on hand if my boys lock up).
Please let me know if I should replace my Adex with letro if i have the oppurtunity or if Adex is enough.
your test will kick in a week or two dude… why use an oral now and stress ur liver ?
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
your test will kick in a week or two dude… why use an oral now and stress ur liver ?[/quote]
It’s called a kickstart.
Lots of people do it.
hes already in week 3
I like adding dbol in around week 6 when the test is doing its thing. Makes for some pretty good size increase and strength.
You could up your adex by .5mg ED if you start getting some sides.
I would be running the hcg now on cycle if I were you.
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
your test will kick in a week or two dude… why use an oral now and stress ur liver ?[/quote]
Huh? Regardless of when you through dbol in it can effect your liver.
And it doesn’t matter if he’s in week 3 or week 9 there’s no day when to run orals I personally like orals mid cycle.
i said that coz test usually kicks in at week 4 or 5… if hes using it as kickstart then i think its pointless…if hes planning to stack then fine like what u said…
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
hes already in week 3[/quote]
so? You can use them anytime you want.
Some folk even like to cycle through different orals over the course of a cycle to stop gains stagnating
Ok, i’ve now completed two full weeks and am about to pin my 5th dose. I haven’t seen to many drastic results yet, i’ve had a hard on for 2 weeks though. I’m hoping next week things will kick in? Will i literally have gains of 5 lbs in a week or so given i have a rock solid diet and routine in place and follow it? What is the most you guys have gained in 1 week at the peak of your most successful test only cycle?
You will start really seeing some results in week 4-5 so give it some time.
I gained 12 pounds in a week, but more than likely mostly all water.