Cycle:
Weeks 1-12 Test E 200/week
Weeks 1-12 Tren E 400/week
Weeks 1-5 Dbol 50mg/day split into two doses
Running Caber and Aromison throughout, although on my first cycle I had arimidex on hand and never really used it because I had no signs of Gyno and did not mind the bloat (except the moon face of course)
I have Nolva/Clomid for PCT
Stats at start of cycle:
5’7" (being generous lol)
164 lbs
8% bf (end of cut)
This is my second cycle, first was test E and Dbol. I gained 40 pounds and then did a little cut still on and dropped a lot of fat and ended the cycle around 175, kept most of that with the help of some eca. Two days into this cycle I am up 6 pounds to 170 (im assuming its mostly water from eating more cals). Im eating around 3500 cals/day but am trying to up it to 4000. Its tough eating that much clean on a college budget when the cafeterias close at 730 pm. Macros for carbs/protein/fat are 45/35/20. Once the tren e kicks in (timed it perfect for summer!) im planning on upping the cals even more. Id consider myself more of an endomorph, but I gain and lose weight relatively easy so I am not too worried about gettin too high bodyfat because I figure I could lean out at the end of tren if it was a problem.
I have a few question though:
Should I run HCG during PCT?
Should I up the test at all?
I have enough Dbol for 6 weeks, should I keep it to 4 or go the whole 6…i know i put 5 in the cycle log.
What do I do if ed becomes a problem. My girlfriend will likely be real dissapointed and that would mess with my head really bad.
I know I should not be running tren yet lol, I was planning on deca but a friend had tren on hand and told me its a great time. Is deca going to be nice to run as a winter cycle?
Would changing my macros to 50c/40p/10f make for better gains or is it not drastic enough that I have to give up on my only cheat food…chicken with melted CHEESE!
Thank you for anyone who got through this whole thing. I will try to get pics up soon and keep you all posted throughout the cycle. If i missed any info you guys are curious about just let me know!
HCG is suppressive, so don’t run it in PCT. Either run it throughout the cycle, or during the last 3 weeks. Search the board and you can find plenty of info on proper use and dosing of HCG.
In my limited experience with Tren, I felt better on high Tren/low test than when I was using equal doses. I would keep it where it is.
I’d play that one by ear. 6 weeks shouldn’t be too long for DBol.
Due to the potential sides from Tren, it is generally recommended to use Tren Ace your first go. That way, if shit gets too real (ED, for example), you can stop injections and it will clear your system in a few days - thus allowing you to fix the issue sooner. You’ve already started, so I guess that’s a moot point.
I’ve only used deca once and had no issues, but with all the threads on here regarding deca and ED (in some cases lasting for several months past the end of the cycle) I don’t intend to mess with it personally. I had some issues on tren, but nothing too bad. I plan on using that again in the future.
Thanks! Yeah I wish I could have gotten Ace but my buddy only had E on hand so I am hoping the sides are bareable.
Day 6. Woke up at 175. I have no idea how I gained this much weight already. Definitely looking a little bloated from the dbol, but I look way better with a shirt on than a week ago (abs are basically gone though).
Forgot to post my 1 reps when I started the cycle at 160. The big three were a 245 bench, a 335 squat, and a 425 deadlift. Hoping to get my bench close to 300 by the end of cycle, squat to about 405, and I am praying for the most likely of these which is a 500 lb deadlift.
[quote]Doyouwrestle wrote:
Forgot to post my 1 reps when I started the cycle at 160. The big three were a 245 bench, a 335 squat, and a 425 deadlift. Hoping to get my bench close to 300 by the end of cycle, squat to about 405, and I am praying for the most likely of these which is a 500 lb deadlift.[/quote]
Jesus Christ. Good luck I guess. But you’re an idiot for using steroids if this is all you could do naturally.
EDIT: My mistake… apparently these were your numbers AFTER your first cycle???
[quote]Doyouwrestle wrote:
Forgot to post my 1 reps when I started the cycle at 160. The big three were a 245 bench, a 335 squat, and a 425 deadlift. Hoping to get my bench close to 300 by the end of cycle, squat to about 405, and I am praying for the most likely of these which is a 500 lb deadlift.[/quote]
Jesus Christ. Good luck I guess. But you’re an idiot for using steroids if this is all you could do naturally.
What the fuck is going on here? Op what the fuck you weight 170 and gained over 30lbs on your first cycle? You ran your first cycle when you were 140lbs maybe??? Really??? Dont give me the it is cause i am short bull shit I am barely 5’6" with my shoes on.
EDIT: My mistake… apparently these were your numbers AFTER your first cycle??? [/quote]
He says he started at 164 and in 4 days was 170, yet he’s using long esters and last I checked dbol ain’t going to give you 6lbs in 4 days.
Either you ate all of fucking mcdonalds or you’re smearing your numbers. Either way I don’t think you will get much love/help from us here. Cycling at 140lbs lol.
[quote]nooberific wrote:
He says he started at 164 and in 4 days was 170, yet he’s using long esters and last I checked dbol ain’t going to give you 6lbs in 4 days.
Either you ate all of fucking mcdonalds or you’re smearing your numbers. Either way I don’t think you will get much love/help from us here. Cycling at 140lbs lol.[/quote]
I know for a fact I started cycling too soon, but once I got started I did not have the same drive when I was off. I was really fat around 210 so when I got down to 140 I thought I was ready to gain muscle and up at college, steroids go around like crazy. I am not posting to brag or anything, I just wanted some real advice since I am doing it anyways. I also know that a lot of people like to look up how certain people react to things so I figured adding a forum on how the cycle is going could help other people considering these compounds.
I put that weight on because it was my birthday that week and I let myself enjoy some of the “sweeter” things in life and this was right at the end of a cut so upping my calories gave me a little jump right off the bat as far as holding water and being fuller. I am at day 9 now and woke up at 172.8 lbs. I am aware that Dbol will not give me gains as quickly as three days and that it is mostly diet. That being said, the last few days I have noticed some increased strength and energy in the gym. I am sure that some of that is now coming from the dbol as well as eating more carbs.
If anyone could tell me why I am sweating so terribly already on this cycle it would be greatly appreciated. My blood pressure is in check. I am going through like five t-shirts a day and cannot go to more than one lecture in a row without having to change shirts and I am sweating so bad that I have to either wear a sweatshirt to hide the sweat stains or only wear white or black t-shirts. Could this be from the dbol at all? Could I already be getting any sides from the tren e only three shots in?
Day 10 today. Woke up feeling nauseous as hell. Went to my morning lecture and had to leave because I felt like I was going to pass out. Been flu like all day.
[quote]Doyouwrestle wrote:
Day 10 today. Woke up feeling nauseous as hell. Went to my morning lecture and had to leave because I felt like I was going to pass out. Been flu like all day. [/quote]
yes, contrary to popular belief, you can get sick while on steroids.
That general weakness and sickness started on thursday and went through the weekend. I got into the gym and FORCED out a couple of workouts. Somehow I was weak and shakey but was stronger when lifting. It is now monday and i feel a big pit in my gut, i feel very foggy and out of it, and im really sweaty and shakey. This is starting to get miserable. Is this more likely a coincidence that I got sick starting on day 10 of tren, or is it more likely the tren sides starting? How long should I stick it out for before deciding it has to be the tren and i need to get off? Now I know why everyone says to get Ace for a first tren run.
There’s no real way for us to know if you’re just sick or reacting to the gear in a bad way. Your symptoms are strange though. They aren’t ones I would really attribute to tren… Maybe others can chime in, but I’ve never heard of nausea as a side effect of tren.
Honestly, it sounds like you have the flu. If someone told me they had that list of symptoms, and they weren’t on gear, that’s immediately where my mind would go.
That being said… tren wasn’t a good idea in the first place. I’d drop the tren just on that basis alone. You made a mistake by jumping to tren at your size/stats. Perhaps Karma is being a bitch right now.