Test E/Dbol/PCT Cycle Advice

Hey guys, just created on account here, excited to get some good advice from you all.

I am going to start my second cycle in a months time and would love to show it to you in hope to ask some questions and feedback :slight_smile:

N.B I have decided to go slightly lower this cycle.

Cycle

Week 1-16 Test E 300mg weekly
Week 1-4 Dbol 20/20/30/30
Week 1-16 Arimidex 0.25mg/0.5mg EOD
Week 19-22 Nolvadex 20/20/20/20
Week 19-22 Clomid 100/100/50/50

Questions

  1. What are your thoughts on using Arimidex for the whole cycle? Could I start using it if I see signs, or is it safer to just do it the whole time?
  2. I was thinking of doing Dbol for 5 weeks instead of 4 weeks?

Thank you,

J

I know that there is a general consensus in some of the more knowledgeable people on here that you should drop AIs.

I’m not even going to pretend to give you any advice because I’m just learning myself, but I’ll save you a little bit of grief here…

Nobody is going to be able to accurately help you unless you post your recent blood panels. Start there and you will get some very intelligent responses.

Hey buddy,

Thanks for getting back to me, it is much appreciated.

I understand and good observation. Will be a little tricky atm, but I did get some blood tests done a little while back. I am sure there is a way of retrieving them. When you say blood panels. Are we talking of BMP, CMP tests and all that?

Thanks again,

James

Forgive me man as I am still green…VERY green…

I would read around the forum here and browse the first timer threads. I’m sure I saw quite a few posts in those threads outlining what these guys typically look for in a full blood panel. I really couldn’t accurately tell you off hand without looking it up myself (Which I can do later on), but it may be just as easy for you to do a little digging around in here…

That’s a nice dose of dbol. Not too much, not too little. I’d say run it five weeks rather than four.

Thank you bmbrady77, going to check blood panels out later. I see why this can help in answering my questions.

iron-yuppie, thanks for the comment. What are your thoughts on starting Arimidex upon the first day of cycle? And would you continue to use it for those two weeks of rest after administration?

Thanks again,

James

I think your test is low for a second cycle but that’s your choice. If you stick with this cycle I would keep the AI low. If you pin twice, run the AI at the smaller dose twice a week too. You don’t need Nolva and Clomid for PCT. Stick with Nolva.

Hey blshaw, thanks for the comment.

Here comes the surprise. I am only taking 300mg once a week. It is a low dosage, but it’s just a choice I have made. Would it be wise to pin twice (150mg) or keep it at one 300mg? It is 8 days half life approx.

Ah ok, so you are saying lower doses of AI then I have already?

Cheers

Without blood work its hard to say how your body will react but I can tell you that if you tank your E2 you are going to feel like crap and have a hard time recovering. I’ve been there… twice. Its awful.

You have two choices with your AI. (1) Wait and see… as in don’t take any and see if you develop issues. (2) Start with an AI.

All I am saying is if you do start with an AI I would stick with the lower of your listed doses as .25mg/EOD.

You are correct on the half life and I’ve found that by spreading your dose out twice a week you smooth out the peak and valley as well as control E2 better.

Excellant - so i’ll start the AI on .25mg/EOD and take it from there. Would you carry the AI through the two weeks of rest after administration as well?

Ah ok, I thought I could get away with just one nice pin a week, but alright then haha. So, 150mg twice a week?

Hey guys, I have my results back. I can honestly say I don’t know how the hell you read this?? So many different numbers. I can’t figure out if they are values or my actual readings haha.

I’m going to post them on here if that’s ok?

Thanks

Don’t carry the AI after your last week if pinning. You pulled labs before starting or during?

Pulled labs?

Ah, tests done before cycle or during? I did these tests before. I haven’t started my cycle yet.

You can post the labs just remove any personal info that’s on it.

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I hope this helps guys.

Just look for anything highlighted. Typically if there’s a problem that’s WAY out of bounds there might be cause for concern. All you’re looking at is if your numbers fall into the normal range.

I think the test dosage you wanna take is too small too. Jump it to 500 and run the dbol at 20 for 5-6 weeks. Its gonna take 5-6 weeks for the test to really start working anyway. By then you can drop the dbol. I’d only take the Adex on days you pin at .5mg. EOD is too much unless you are getting sensitive nipples or something.

Hey osu1222975,

Thanks for the comment. I was always going to do a low dose cycle anyway, so even though 300mg is low, I am happy with doing this for 16/17 weeks. Some people say pin twice a week to smooth it out. 150mg twice a week could be a shout?

Yeah, I think I am going to just wait and see if I have any sides, then take Arimidex if I need.

And yeah all the results look okay to me. Test could be higher I’d say (13.9) but hey, guess I can work on that.