Looking for some advice on the below cycle, after previously running a Test & Anavar cycle, I am now starting out on the injectables.
Male - 6’3 - 94kg, BF 14.5%
Starting on 50mg daily Winstrol, 600 mg of Test and Deca together for 6 weeks,
I have read that you should run more test than Deca but also read to run both amounts simultaneously - thoughts and advice appreciated,
Goals are to increase strength, muscle mass and size whilst also keeping a lean athletic look. Diet and macro is consistent and there is zero alcohol intake
If you only plan on running a six week cycle you need to run testP and NPP. You’ll need to pin EOD. If you wanna run longer ester compounds you’ll need to run 10-12 weeks or it will be a waste. If you run the short esters you can also run a little lower dosages.
Sorry it was 6 weeks at them levels, then looking to increase to 100mg of Winstrol then 900 Test E & 900 Deca if the body shows no side effects, genuine Q, is that too much for a first cycle user, or adjust according to the body? Thanks in advance
This is not good.
Way too much gear.
Wk 1-12
300mg/wk test
150mg/wk deca
25mg/day proviron
Is more than enough. If you wanna add an oral you can add in some anavar or winstrol but 50mg/day of either is more than enough. Run the oral for 5-6 weeks.
Make sure your using organ protection and have an AI on hand.
More is not better with AAS. Especially if this is your first rodeo.
What would you recommend for the winstrol? I’m thinking about adding it to my test-C & Deca. I have clomiphene & HCG as well. Thank you for the advice!
Proviron id a DHT derivative. It add DHT to a cycle that does have have a DHT component like deca/NPP. It helps to balance out DHN/DHT to avoid issues like deca dick. Does nothing for estrogen.
But don’t DHTs like Masteron compete for the Estrogen receptor where as Primobolan another DHT has been shown to lower actual totoal estrogen. But at the same time with DHT’s lowering SHBG and increasing free test, this could also increase estrogen conversion from the free test. As such, won’t the OP be better off adding Primo at 50-100mgs a week which would act as a ai as well as act as a DHT. So this’d mean lower estrogen sides associated with Deca as it has been shown to upregulate estrogen from the test, which mean more progesterone and prolactin related sides. Also with primo being a DHT it’ll also help counteract the DHN sides from Deca. Just my thoughts which is why I was asking about the estrogen related action of Proviron
In general you are correct. The fly in the ointment is that this is not true for everyone. We all react differently to drugs. For me primo nor masteron do anything for estrogen. For some it will crush estrogen.
I would never suggest someone use primo or mast to control estrogen unless they have proven it works for them. In the case of deca, I would chooses proviron over primo or mast for DHT as Proviron is very mild and I know exactly how much I need to take depending on the deca dose. I would rather run a little higher deca with 25-50mg/day proviron than 100’s of mg/wk of primo/mast.
At the end of the day though you need to experiment and find out what works for you.
