So over the months i have learned that one of the underlying ‘rules’ of this board is run Test with EVERYTHING.
I understand that if it is for the A/A effects and benefits it gives - then it is a good steroid. nothing builds size like Test - we all love it.
However, many of you seem to recommend test simply for its libido retaining qualities - so with Deca, winny, tren, dbol whatever.
The thing is, libido is maintained not by testosterone. It is DHT - i am sure many know this.
But that means that IF it is indicated, a cycle doesnt HAVE to include the big T.
I am thinking for cutting especially - or when the mass of test isnt wanted due to sports weight categories.
And sometimes - hell, a Dbol and proviron cycle would be really pretty nice IMO. The proviron tightening up the dbol even more… yeah.
So for a real tight-results cutting cycle - where test ISNT wanted, Masteron or proviron would be a great addition, providing the DHT to please the ladies - but none of the size and bloat that often accompanies Test use. Plus with Masteron you get the fantastic physical advantages, it is a great strength booster and is anabolic too - proviron is lacking sadly in every department other than Androgenicity.
Of course, the use of a Susp or Ace or Prop Test ester when cutting can be totally useful - but thats not the point, the point is SOMETIMES it isnt wanted…
I just wanted to share the fact that there ARE other options out there for people - when we give recommendations.
Testosterone or lack thereof effects mood, libido and health to name but a few.
I speak for most when we say always use test.
Im not really overly read up on proviron, ive used it a few times - always as a means of shbg control - now, SHBG is testosterone bound for etc etc, not dianabol for example.
So, and excuse my ignorance (i will look this up after posting this) what benefit will proviron have when ran with a dianabol only cycle when test (natty) is shut down??
[quote]testanabol wrote:
Testosterone or lack thereof effects mood, libido and health to name but a few.
I speak for most when we say always use test.
Im not really overly read up on proviron, ive used it a few times - always as a means of shbg control - now, SHBG is testosterone bound for etc etc, not dianabol for example.
So, and excuse my ignorance (i will look this up after posting this) what benefit will proviron have when ran with a dianabol only cycle when test (natty) is shut down??[/quote]
The ‘parts’ of test that affect mood, libido and health (um, often negatively in SP doses)… are in proviron/Mast… it is Dihydrotestosterone that gives you those. proviron really is the androgen missing from a cycle without test. The reason some androgenic AAS do not give the right androgenic sides we need (libido, mood etc) is because they turn into dihydromethandrostenolone, or DH-Boldenone, or DH-Nandrolone… see?
Yes you DO speak for most, as that is the reason i am trying to let everyone know the REASONS test is recommended when the androgenic part is missing - thus loss of libido, mood etc!
So if you actually understand the in-depth reasoning behind it, you can recommend someone use Mast or Prov to achieve the same results as the test was intended for. (not the anabolic side of course…)
Brook,
Would you be opposed to 100mg/wk of TestE in a(any) cycle? The test would be at or below HRT levels and if you’re doing a test taper PCT you have a base level running in your system.
Phileaux
Nah - many people want to use Anavar alone, and you often see cutting cycles with eq, tren and var or something like that… in which case masteron would go down a fucking storm.
Many here would blindly recommend test to keep the libido up - i just want to let those who need to know, that test ISNT the only answer. And sometimes the mass and bulk of test ISNT wanted, even in men.
You know how minds can work here - one person says something for a specific reason, and then others follow blindly repeating the same advice ad infinitum, with zero thought to specificity.
Well i am attempting to get people to think about it properly, the REASONS behind certain decisions, rather than ‘it just IS’
[quote]AlteredState wrote:
The only steroid that I would consider semi-worthy standalones are primobolan or anavar, and thwe cost factor alone negates their use solo, IMO.[/quote]
Altered have you personally ran a primo only cycle?
