Hi guy, I’ve recently been contemplating on ending my currently on-going cruise by starting a blast cycle.
I was thinking of running:
Test E 600-750mg/weekly for 20 weeks
Deca 400-500mg/weekly for 18 weeks
Dbol 50mg ED for 8 weeks
Along with the steroids itself I am going to use:
1mg Aromasin as needed to keep healty estrogen levels, preferrably on the higher side without causing to much side effects.
20mg Nolvadex taken as needed in case of gyno decides to flare up.
0.5mg Caber in case of high prolactin.
I was contemplating on running Anadrol as tolerated instead of Dbol but I am very aware of the prolactin issues that might result in.
Also I was thinking of adding in Proviron 50mg ED throughout the enterity of cycle in order to keep my dick working in case of Deca dick.
My question to you guys would be what the specific dosages you’d suggest running on my cycle and what you would’ve done differently depending on own experiences.
Anadrol is highly toxic. I like your first plan better.
I don’t think this will help much.
I don’t advise on cycles as this is a highly personal decision. Also, to give advice with any accuracy a full cycle history, stats, training history, and goals would be necessary.
Back in the good ol’ days, we understood that Anadrol 50 was highly toxic. If I used it, which was seldom, I only ran it 4 weeks at 50mg/day.
We didn’t know if its toxicity was compound specific or just because it came in 50mg tablets. I knew no one who used close to 50mg/day of Dianabol, but heard of a competitor who took 80mg/day.
1)You seem to have some sort of plan for different problems. Why do you think you will even run into them? You will start a cycle and use AI for e2, caber for prolactin, proviron for ED… What if u dont need them? Why pump yourself with twice the drugs before even needed?
2)You didnt provide any context - no pics, no reasoning WHY you even need steroids, etc. Very hard to talk about these topics not even knowing what and why.
I don’t really get running Dbol and testosterone at the same time; they do the same thing, one is just really bad for you. Anadrol and test I can get behind tho. That was my first cycle and still my favorite. Great strength gains early in
I think a lot of guys use this cos they read that it helps with libido, without understanding what it does or how it helps (or doesn’t help). In your case, you’re not going to need it
It could be that I don’t completely understand Dbol cos it was never one of my favorites. But my understanding is that it acts exactly how testosterone acts, converting into e2 (be it methyl or whatever), so it covers all your hormone bases and can be run by itself. But since it’s an oral it fucks up your liver, SHBG, lipids, etc. I always thought of it as a worse version of testosterone. It is fast acting, so I get why you’d want to add it to a cycle for the quick gains, but given a choice, I’d leave it out. Or use it as a base with another oral or anabolic for 6-8 weeks. I figured that’s why old guys liked it so much with Deca, cos it was basically the same as running a test base.
@RT_Nomad is correct about dbol. The most classic stack I can think of is Test/Nandrolone/Dbol. Its been a staple mass gaining cycle for as long as I can remember.
I’m currently running this cycle, however, less mg and I just finished dbol last week (6weeks) For me, dbol suppressed my appetite like crazy. It was a struggle to get food down, which sucked because I’m trying to bull. Got off the dbol now I’m eating like a horse, so I added anadrol injectable a couple days ago. Someone advised just taking 50mg before a workout. Can’t find much info on the injectable version.
use the dbol in the first 4 weeks until the untreatables reach their maximum concentration in blood and thus avoid the toxic problems of the orals, but I think that the oxa would be better
Front loading your oral is the old school method. The problem I had with this is when the oral leaves your system you could tell and it was not motivating to lose strength or size in the middle of your cycle. I preferred them at the end when the injectable stalls out a bit to push through until your off. Plus if you PCT you could use the oral as a partial bridge. Just my opinion.
I know things have changed, but in my day of using AAS, I always started with an oral and stayed on at least one oral the entire cycle. If my cycles exceeded 8 weeks (I did 12 week cycles for the targeted contest of each year) I would up the AAS in the 7th week and drop the “wet” AAS in favor of the “dryer” ones, plus about a 25% increase in total weekly AAS.
Thats certainly another way to do it. There also isn’t anything ‘wrong’ or ‘new’ about front loading with the oral. I never ran the oral the whole time and therein was the problem. After 5-6 weeks of dbol and then cessation, you noticed. Even if your injectable was just kicking. Like you’ve stated, I also noticed that I started seeing diminishing returns after week 8-9 so adding the oral at the end plus bridging just makes a lot more sense IMO. Now if you’re running a shorter cycle, certainly being on both the whole time would be preferable for muscle gains.