Test, Deca, Dbol Cycle

Pharma TRT
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Hi looking for some advice on my next cycle regarding proviron.

Cycle details
Test E week 1-12 500mg ew split in 2 doses
Deca week 1-12 500mg ew as above
Dbol week 1-6 40-60mg ED

No need for pct as I will take 2 weeks off then back on to low dose test 75mg every 4 days

I tend to get a bit of gyno when taking deca and find that anastrazole or tamoxifen take away that feeling of frigging awesomeness when on gear! :grin:

Has anybody used proviron whilst on this sort of cycle to help with the gyno or shit feeling from the ais or should I jus bite the bullet and get my tits removed :grin:. Iā€™ve got everything on hand letro anastrazole tamoxifen hcg.blah blah

Basically just want some advice on how to reduce the gyno without ruining the feeling of being superman :rofl:

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Cutting those doses in half is closer to what I would recommend. (40% of those doses exactly)

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Cheers for the reply I can see how that would work. Would you run the cycle for the same amount of time or longer? And would I see the same sort of gains?

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I ran 8 week cycles with 6 to 8 weeks off, year round. When I had a ā€œtargetā€ contest I did a cycle for 12 weeks.

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You have three compounds that aromatize. Test obviously, dbol heavily, and nandrolone (deca) which aromatizes slightly. The three you picked are a classic wet stack that people having been using for years to gain mass. However, its not friendly to those that suffer easily from high E2. Just food for thought.

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Iā€™d look at the dosages of your AI or SERM before concluding that they take away from the gear feeling. Many use AIs blindly (start too high, donā€™t get blood work), and end up with too much, taken too often.

What have you tried for protocol with AI or SERM?

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I would double them.

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Iā€™ve tried 1mg of anastrazole every 5 days found it didnā€™t help. I did the tamoxifen 1 x 20mg every 3 days and ended up feeling dull. How far into cycle would u get bloods.

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Obviously my post fell on deaf ears. Why not throw out the dbol for a DHT? Againā€¦ three aromatizing compounds are on your list.

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All three are great for muscle mass. Doses are just too high.

Sure Winstrol would be a nice oral.

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Iā€™d do bloods about half way through unless you have issues.

1 mg all at once is a lot for anastrazole. I was using 0.25 mg EOD on my last run (875 mg/wk Test).

The advice of not using 3 compounds that convert to E2 is pretty solid IMO.

I like using Tbol with Test because it does not convert to E2, but gives a nice little bump in gym performance. It shouldnā€™t be considered mild Dbol, but that is the comparison I see a lot (it is weaker mg/mg than Dbol, but it is also less likely to produce negative side effects on several levels, as it isnā€™t nearly as androgenic as Dbol either). Something to consider instead of Dbol IMO.

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I hear you masteron? Dosages? Or go for an oral?

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I do like winny but the after effects are too harsh

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I never experienced sides from Winstrol, but I never took more than 20mg/day of Winstrol. (All my AAS were pharmaceutical grade)

I liked Winstrol before a contest because it tended to positively affect muscle volume. I felt that Anavar tended to increase muscle density.

After introducing testosterone into my cycles, I would vary the anabolics each cycle and sometimes mid cycle.

I felt I had more aromatization with enanthate than I did with cypionate. I could only take 200mg/wk of testosterone without aromatization problems.

I have no experience with Tbol.

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Give Tbol or Anavar a look IMO. Both should be considerably less on side effects compared to Winny. Winny is stronger though (havenā€™t tried it, but I believe it to be).

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Tbol is one of my favs.

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Tbol is my favorite oral compound. I have never used deca, simply due to the numerous posts about sexual side effects. There is something compelling about trying this classic stack though.

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How would it do that?

I imagine your SHBG is low enough on this cycle, and youā€™re doing enough already, so ā€¦ no

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Sorry Iā€™m not intentionally trying to be vague. I just donā€™t feel comfortable telling anybody what they should do especially when it comes to pharma. I can tell you that masteron is great at reducing e2 / related sides and many people run it along side Nandrolone. But simply by removing a high aromatizer like dbol and running what others have recommended may be enough.

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Iā€™ve run a gram of test, but everything else was considerably lower.

The highest I got per week of all gear combined was shy of 2 grams a week.

With 10ius of growth per day.

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