So I’m starting my first actual cycle and plan on running 500mg of test cyp with 300mg of test prop. I know cyp is a longer ester (which I’ve been on 140mg of Cyp for over a year now) and the prop is a shorter ester. Didn’t know if I would benefit from running them both together or if that is even a good idea?
Is this the weekly dose (500mg cyp and 300mg prop)?
Seems an extremely large dosage as a first cycle.
Maybe, tell something about yourself and lifting experience and results thus far.
The first cycle is only done after training and diet have brought you to good level, and in any case, you usually never exceed half a gram at the beginning. Furthermore, using only testo, there is a risk of excessive estrogen levels, obviously it depends on genetics and other factors.
36, 5’10 230. 17% bf currently. Been natty my whole life until TRT last year but have been bodybuilding for over 10 yrs.
Thank you. Just trying to get a base. I’ve responded very well to 140mg/week of cup. Blood work is always good.
Also yes, was planning on running that weekly. Pin Cyp x2 a week and then prop EOD.
IMO, taking cypionate twice a week is sufficient to reasonably flatten the AAS curve.
How were you taking the 140mg/wk TRT?
What does this mean as to results? What does your weight and strength look like?
A pic would be helpful.
BTW, there is no way I could take 800mg/wk of testosterone without having severe estrogen problems. I had used AAS three decades and competed those years. I never took more than 600mg/wk of AAS and only 200mg/wk was testosterone cypionate.
Yeah I’ve been doing twice a week for my 140 mg TRT dose and blood work has been good, body has handled it well. That’s why I was thinking of upping it to 500mg. I guess the main question would be about the test prop.
If I were you, I would try “blasting” 300mg/wk first.
It is by far the best plan to use the least AAS that yields nice results. Bodybuilding use of AAS is an incremental process improvement strategy, where each cycle builds on the previous cycle. No matter how much of whatever AAS you take, you will not reach your desired destination on one cycle!
The first seven, or so, years I started the next cycle stronger than I had started the previous cycle.
Appreciate it. So as far as taking test prop with it?
I wouldn’t.
Maybe some others will see this thread and have a different opinion.
Many pros prefer long esters and close injections (eod) to maintain stable levels.
Part of the problem attracting more members is that your started your thread in the wrong sub-forum. You should be asking in the “Pharma” sub-forum, not the “Nutrition” sub-forum