Excellent progress there.
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Do something about this. Low HDL is to be expected on AAS. Yours isnāt in the teens or single digitsā¦ not much you can do about low HDLā¦ you CAN take niacin, but effects on glucose tolerance, flushing and whatnot mean many canāt tolerate it. Data has also failed to consistently find a strong correlation between niacin use and risk of cardiovascular eventsā¦ Perhaps it raises HDL, but doesnāt raise the correct sub fractions of HDL most implicated in preventing CVDā¦
LDL can easily be lowered significantly through pharmacological interventions. Low HDL and an LDL/HDL ratio of say 3.5/1 is a hell of a lot better than a ratio of 8.9/1
Are you on any orals?
The only oral I am running is 10 mg of halo 1 time a week or 1 time every other week. I took 10 mg of halo on Friday and the blood draw was Tuesday morning.
While this isnāt an oral AAS, I am running ventolin at 4 mg/day on training days only (4 days/wk). I am not using it to cut (although I am sure it has helped) but ventolin was the first thing I have found that ACTUALLY controls my asthma.
Iām not certain if this makes a difference but I wasnāt completely fasted during this blood draw. I drank a cup of black coffee with a scoop of protein. Otherwise I was fasted.
Iāll definitely pick up some niacin and see how it affects me. Anything else you would recommend for LDL or otherwise?
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Iāve been using Ezetimibe for LDL. Went from 102 to 76. No sides Iāve noticed
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That appears to be by prescription only?
Niacin will adversely affect glucose tolerance and will cause flushing. Niacin also doesnāt lower LDL nearly as much relative to statins, fibrates or ezetimibe. Niacin, esp CR niacin wonāt bode well with orals.
Some people canāt tolerate the flushing/itchingā¦ I actually like it, I find being focused on that detracts from otherwise being in constant pain.
Ask your doc for a statin or something
Is halo 1x/wk responsible for your fucked up bloods? Noā¦ Though Iād imagine your bloods would be a whole lot worse if you were using halo daily. C-17aa drugs fuck up lipids a whole lot worse than inj steroids
Testosterone has the least impact, followed by synthetic derivitives of test, nandrolone then DHT derivitives, tren (though I think mast likely has an equitable effect on HDL relative to tren) THEN orals.
The only statin youāre going to get without a script is lovastatin. Red yeast Rice contains lovastatin, though the product is unregulated (lovastatin dose/batch differs dramaticallyā¦ Some brands are useless and contain no active monacolin K). Also the prospect of citrinin contamination is highly concerning.
Iāve used a few brands of RYR extract. Some useless, but the ones that work work just as well as sayā¦ 10-20mg simvastatin daily (going by the bloods Iāve had).
Your lipids still wonāt be great even with the reduction RYR can giveā¦ Youād need a strong statin like high dose rosuvastatin to approach an acceptable LDL/HDL ratio. With that being said, some leeway is acceptable on cycle I suppose.
Do you have baseline lipids prior to this cycle?
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What is your RHR?
So the only other blood work I have with lipids, both times were off cycle, actually with no TRT either, Jan of 2020 (this was before I started TRT) my LDL was 146 and HDL was 58 and Jan 2021 (this was after the eye injury and I was running HCG only) LDL was 133 and HDL was 69. I was not running any orals during either of those.
Usually 57-63 BPM
So I meanā¦ LDL is mildly elevated at baseline, HDL is fantastic. Probably not the end of the world.
On cycle however your lipids take quite a nosedive. Iām presuming youāre currently either on Tren and/or DHT derivitives
600/400/400/50 test/tren/bold/MENT
Nice progress!!!
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Mmmmmā¦ Ok, relatively speaking lipids could have been a whole lot worse given your stackā¦ HDL isnāt in the single digits, LDL is below 200
Still, try get it sorted out if you can.
Do you find the 50mg MENT makes a difference? I was going to try it, but 200$/vial? Not a chance
Will do, thanks a ton for the advice. Iāll look into RYR extract and niacin. And if that doesnāt work Iāll got for something stronger.
@iron_yuppie is a much better person to ask, BUT I can run other 19-nors (nand/tren) with zero mood/libido issues. Nand makes me paranoid and tren makes me short tempered. So much so that my wife and I sat down and talked and I thought Iād never be able to run it again. I have had no issues with temper or paranoia running MENT.
When I say libido issues, both nand and tren make me sex crazed, like Iām ready to cheat on my beautiful wife at a momentās notice, and I was trying to convince her to let me have a girlfriend last time on tren. The MENT re-centers my sex drive and I donāt feel the need to cheat or masturbate 4+ times per day. In fact I can go days without masturbating even on tren and MENT, which is a lot more than I can say on TRT alone. But I still love having sex too, so itās not like I am becoming numb or having a decreased sex drive either.
TLDR; I cannot overstate the mood boost MENT gives, even at such a low dose. I am running 8mg/day right now.
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Better than masteron?
One vial will last you significantly longer than you think, depending on the concentration. 5mg/d is more than enough to start with. If itās 100mg/ml then youāre looking at a 200 day supply from one vial. Thatās $1/d, which isnāt that bad when you look at it vs other options. Taking 400mg/w of primo would cost you more than that and the gains would be considerably less.
Iāve never taken that much primoā¦ Most Iāve ever taken in one shot (after missing a week) was 500, otherwise I took 2-300mg/wk and was very satisfied with what I got out of it.
Currently injured so thereād be no point in taking something like this now if I canāt even squat (or do ANY leg exercises). Good to know for future reference though 
Try half that