Test and Tren Cycle

Hey all,

After I come off my first cycle of running 500mg/week of Sustanon 250, I plan on running this cycle:

Weeks 1-12, 125mg/EOD of Test Cyp 500mg/week
Weeks 3-8, 50mg/ED of Tren Ace 350mg/week
.25mg/ED anastrozole, increasing as needed

PCT will we test taper.

I have some winstrol and dbol I can add if you all suggest.

My goal is max strength gains and a little bit of fat loss. I could give two shits about size but I know it’ll come. I’ll be doing a westside protocol with a little bit of strongman stuff incorporated.

My questions are…how many calories should I be consuming a day? Anything to take caution on?

Thanks,

GD

No hijack intended. I don’t know anything about tren or cutting cycles so I won’t comment.

What gains did you see on your sustanon cycle, and how long did you run it?

I have noticed that in the US the term is “i could give two shits” but in the UK the term is “I COULDN’T give two shits”

As in “I do not give a shit about…whatever”

Your version implys “I COULD give a shit”! as in “I DO care” see?

OP how is ANYONE supposed to know how many calories you should eat?!

Current weight
Height
Activity level
Job
Bodyfat percentage
Goals
History

The steroids kinda have nothing to do with what you should eat… the goals do really.

As for the cycle, i am sure it will be great! :slight_smile:

[quote] JJ wrote:
I have noticed that in the US the term is “i could give two shits” but in the UK the term is “I COULDN’T give two shits”

As in “I do not give a shit about…whatever”

Your version implys “I COULD give a shit”! as in “I DO care” see?

OP how is ANYONE supposed to know how many calories you should eat?!

Current weight
Height
Activity level
Job
Bodyfat percentage
Goals
History

The steroids kinda have nothing to do with what you should eat… the goals do really.

As for the cycle, i am sure it will be great! :)[/quote]

In america we often have an overabundance of shit…so we give them out in pairs when we don’t care about something :wink: just clearing that up :stuck_out_tongue: lol jk joe good point, I always wondered why that phrase was coined…or “I could give a rats ass” I’d like to see somebody get a rats ass…lol…i’m bored at work…

DG

[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
JJ wrote:
I have noticed that in the US the term is “i could give two shits” but in the UK the term is “I COULDN’T give two shits”

As in “I do not give a shit about…whatever”

Your version implys “I COULD give a shit”! as in “I DO care” see?

OP how is ANYONE supposed to know how many calories you should eat?!

Current weight
Height
Activity level
Job
Bodyfat percentage
Goals
History

The steroids kinda have nothing to do with what you should eat… the goals do really.

As for the cycle, i am sure it will be great! :slight_smile:

In america we often have an overabundance of shit…so we give them out in pairs when we don’t care about something :wink: just clearing that up :stuck_out_tongue: lol jk joe good point, I always wondered why that phrase was coined…or “I could give a rats ass” I’d like to see somebody get a rats ass…lol…i’m bored at work…

DG[/quote]

Lmao!

gun
I think you PM’d on this but tren test is wonderful for strength gains you will be pleased I would add the dbol in around week 3 or so.
If you do strongman be aware you might not a decrease in your aerobic capacity.

Also might wanna try Enanthate over Cyp if you have not ordered yet. Lately Cyp has been getting bad T-Nation press. I used cyp for years and personally thought it was fine but I do think I too prefer Enanthate

saps,

I already ordered the Cyp. I guess the bad press is because of the long-acting ester of the Cyp. I’ve heard nothing but great things about it myself. I would run the dbol as you’re doing but wouldn’t that be too much for a second cycle???

JJ,

My stats are as follows:

Ht: 6 feet
Wt: 230 lbs.
Activity Level: train five days/week, Westside and Strongman
Bodyfat: around 16%
History: Training for four years, one cycle of Sustanon 250 @ 500mg/week
Goals: Huge Strength Gains along with some fat loss. I know this is like asking for a sunny day with a little bit of snow. Maybe it’s lean mass I’m looking for…

[quote]gundecker wrote:
saps,

I already ordered the Cyp. I guess the bad press is because of the long-acting ester of the Cyp. I’ve heard nothing but great things about it myself. I would run the dbol as you’re doing but wouldn’t that be too much for a second cycle???

JJ,

My stats are as follows:

Ht: 6 feet
Wt: 230 lbs.
Activity Level: train five days/week, Westside and Strongman
Bodyfat: around 16%
History: Training for four years, one cycle of Sustanon 250 @ 500mg/week
Goals: Huge Strength Gains along with some fat loss. I know this is like asking for a sunny day with a little bit of snow. Maybe it’s lean mass I’m looking for…

[/quote]

I dont know why the bad rep is going around since Test Cyp and Test E are virtually the same. They are both long estered oil based steroids. Maybe becuause of people getting bad stuff.

There are claims that Test Cyp can be felt more than test E, but it all seems to be anecdoatal.

Guys - this is my first post but I couldn’t resist. Back to the 2 shits conversation - there is a proper way of saying it and an improper way of saying it and it just so happens that the way the Americans are saying it is incorrect (if they do in fact say it that way - I know a few intelligent Americans that probably would not screw it up like that so I disagree that it is ALL Americans). And that goes for the rats ass too. There are only 2 possible reasons they are saying “could” instead of “couldn’t” - they’re not very bright OR so incredibly lazy that they can’t go the distance and utter the last 2 consonants…